Re: Takeover thread. What will happen now. ?

[viva_la_amo]

Just had a quick look through and for a second I thought I was on the NO takeover thread.

[Denis_B]

Well it's the glorious twelth and sweet FA

The 12th was mentioned as Tom Fox's potential start date, that was all.

If you're going to have a pathetic dig at people, at least base it on something factual.

A comment or even an observation of a fact.....how is that a 'dig' ?

[Steveallen79]

Not takeover related but completely out of the blue tonight, Tony Dorigo requested to connect with me on LinkedIn!  Maybe he knows something....I'll ask

And that is said with 100% sarcasm!

[kimbo]

Well it's the glorious twelth and sweet FA

The 12th was mentioned as Tom Fox's potential start date, that was all.

If you're going to have a pathetic dig at people, at least base it on something factual.

A comment or even an observation of a fact.....how is that a 'dig' ?

Sound.

[Denis_B]

Well it's the glorious twelth and sweet FA

The 12th was mentioned as Tom Fox's potential start date, that was all.

If you're going to have a pathetic dig at people, at least base it on something factual.

A comment or even an observation of a fact.....how is that a 'dig' ?

Sound.

Thats ok, apology accepted :)

[Chrissylee1111]

Just watched this funny impression of lambert http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sir-doug-ellis-people-find-7762151

[AstonThriller]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

[Trotters]

Why Man Utd fans will need the new iPhone 6 Plus...

[Saunders]

Very funny trotter, love this I hate Manchester United more than any other club, the best time of my life is when we done them in the underground and victory at Wembley, happy day.

Any more news on Benteke, I think PDC mentioned he might be fit for today's game.

Roll on the takeover come on you Lions.

[Trotters]

Benteke news was covered in the Liverpool thread.

[Saunders]

Thanks for the update.

[viva_la_amo]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

London factor aside they are a few big players short of being genuine title challengers. We need a whole new squad just to break top 6.

One thing I don't understand is why did this group that are interested have to declare their interest due to a business code? Are Spurs a listed company?

[AstonThriller]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

London factor aside they are a few big players short of being genuine title challengers. We need a whole new squad just to break top 6.

One thing I don't understand is why did this group that are interested have to declare their interest due to a business code? Are Spurs a listed company?

Don't agree. They had Bale and what did they win? didn't even get top 4. Unless investors come in and spend like City i don't see what difference it will make..at least with us someone can come in a build slowly without any massive expectations.

[Trotters]

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[roba19]

http://t.co/5K3B7PfiAW

Is there any possibility that this Cain Hoy group of U.S. businessmen could be the same ones that were rumoured to be interested in Villa earlier this year? I seem to recall some chat on TBAR about there being more than one potential investor as one of the possible options.

[Olof Mellberg]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

London factor aside they are a few big players short of being genuine title challengers. We need a whole new squad just to break top 6.

One thing I don't understand is why did this group that are interested have to declare their interest due to a business code? Are Spurs a listed company?

Don't agree. They had Bale and what did they win? didn't even get top 4. Unless investors come in and spend like City i don't see what difference it will make..at least with us someone can come in a build slowly without any massive expectations.

Why would they want to build slowly? Spurs are unfortunately way ahead of Villa in terms of the playing side, they get European football every year, they have a good deep squad not brilliant but with a a few big signings which they would be able to get under FFP rules due to their generated income, they are a champions league contender, maybe not title contender but CL contender.

Aston Villa has everything going for it, except the current playing staff, which is the thing that needs major investment which isnt possible under FFP as they are too far behind, and way off European football, hence why nobody wants it IMO, If your a billionaire wanting a project you dont want a glass ceiling which Villa has under FFP, you want to be able to get your team Qualifying for a top 4 spot every year or at least capable of that, you can with Tottenham under FFP, you cant with Aston Villa today.

As I said earlier, Its not the asking price thats the issue, its what you can do with the club once its bought within the restrictions in place today that is...

Very few teams under FFP are attractive, only the established European contenders are, hence why even at £1 Billion, it has reported interest...

[GadgetMan]

Well I see Tom Fox didn't the the unveiling Doogan suggested he would pre Liverpool...

The Tom unveiling was Tom Cleverley.

[viva_la_amo]

I'm still as confused as to why interest in Spurs had to be declared. I thought they were privately owner liked Villa.

[Trotters]

http://t.co/5K3B7PfiAW

Is there any possibility that this Cain Hoy group of U.S. businessmen could be the same ones that were rumoured to be interested in Villa earlier this year? I seem to recall some chat on TBAR about there being more than one potential investor as one of the possible options.

There was more than a few stories going about that a deal was somehow scuppered by Lerner months ago. Could well be them. Who knows?

[kimbo]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

London factor aside they are a few big players short of being genuine title challengers. We need a whole new squad just to break top 6.

One thing I don't understand is why did this group that are interested have to declare their interest due to a business code? Are Spurs a listed company?

Don't agree. They had Bale and what did they win? didn't even get top 4. Unless investors come in and spend like City i don't see what difference it will make..at least with us someone can come in a build slowly without any massive expectations.

Why would they want to build slowly? Spurs are unfortunately way ahead of Villa in terms of the playing side, they get European football every year, they have a good deep squad not brilliant but with a a few big signings which they would be able to get under FFP rules due to their generated income, they are a champions league contender, maybe not title contender but CL contender.

Aston Villa has everything going for it, except the current playing staff, which is the thing that needs major investment which isnt possible under FFP as they are too far behind, and way off European football, hence why nobody wants it IMO, If your a billionaire wanting a project you dont want a glass ceiling which Villa has under FFP, you want to be able to get your team Qualifying for a top 4 spot every year or at least capable of that, you can with Tottenham under FFP, you cant with Aston Villa today.

As I said earlier, Its not the asking price thats the issue, its what you can do with the club once its bought within the restrictions in place today that is...

Very few teams under FFP are attractive, only the established European contenders are, hence why even at £1 Billion, it has reported interest...

'Olof', are you Sutton Paul on VT?

[Trotters]

I can't see FFP in it's current guise being around for long. It puts clubs (companies) at a disadvantage in being able to compete by limiting their potential to invest. It's illegal. Has to be. And if it was fair to all, I can't see too many owners being bothered but it's far from that.

Anyone willing to spend 200m to 1billion on a business will be more than willing to pay for a team of lawyers to scare the shit out of Platini.

I give it 18 months.

[Olof Mellberg]

I find it hard to fathom how people would be bidding for Spurs while leaving a massive club like ours on the shelf? where's the logic? lets say you buy spurs for 400m or around that mark...do you really think the price is gonna get much higher than that in the years to come? there's more profit in buying a club like ours as we've already got a stadium, training facilities etc in place...but i guess it's a london thing.

I'm hoping a top 10 finish this year will flush out potential buyers..all in all though it's not turned out the way i was hoping it would back in the summer...just so many false dawns.

London factor aside they are a few big players short of being genuine title challengers. We need a whole new squad just to break top 6.

One thing I don't understand is why did this group that are interested have to declare their interest due to a business code? Are Spurs a listed company?

Don't agree. They had Bale and what did they win? didn't even get top 4. Unless investors come in and spend like City i don't see what difference it will make..at least with us someone can come in a build slowly without any massive expectations.

Why would they want to build slowly? Spurs are unfortunately way ahead of Villa in terms of the playing side, they get European football every year, they have a good deep squad not brilliant but with a a few big signings which they would be able to get under FFP rules due to their generated income, they are a champions league contender, maybe not title contender but CL contender.

Aston Villa has everything going for it, except the current playing staff, which is the thing that needs major investment which isnt possible under FFP as they are too far behind, and way off European football, hence why nobody wants it IMO, If your a billionaire wanting a project you dont want a glass ceiling which Villa has under FFP, you want to be able to get your team Qualifying for a top 4 spot every year or at least capable of that, you can with Tottenham under FFP, you cant with Aston Villa today.

As I said earlier, Its not the asking price thats the issue, its what you can do with the club once its bought within the restrictions in place today that is...

Very few teams under FFP are attractive, only the established European contenders are, hence why even at £1 Billion, it has reported interest...

'Olof', are you Sutton Paul on VT?

No im not, just a realist.

What I say above is common sense IMO, I dont see what the appeal of Villa is unless your a Villa fan with an emotional attachment to the club as to why you would buy it, sorry if my opinion goes against the grain, just cant do a great deal with it currently... Tottenham you could as they are already on a much higher level playing staff wise which is the one thing FFP restricts you on, everything else you can spend £££ on freely to improve going forewords...

People say FFP will not last, I dont know whether it will or it wont, but once its gone, and only once it has been removed, or the restrictions lessened on spending per say will clubs in our position become more attractive to buy in the PL.

[B62 Villa]

Spurs are a far more attractive proposition than us I'm afraid, they won't be sold for £1bn it will be near £700m, they have a rich history, are in London, big support base, moving to a 57k all seated state of the art stadium, could be at wembley til they move, much better playing staff and manager, and most importantly they can challenge for CL and still comply with FFP, which means their financial growth will continue. We can't offer the same prospects, yes the asking price reflects this, but the massive stumbling blocks are they are in London, Europe and have a far better squad and gaffer than us, this is why we aren't IMHO anywhere near being sold.

[Olof Mellberg]

Spurs are a far more attractive proposition than us I'm afraid, they won't be sold for £1bn it will be near £700m, they have a rich history, are in London, big support base, moving to a 57k all seated state of the art stadium, could be at wembley til they move, much better playing staff and manager, and most importantly they can challenge for CL and still comply with FFP, which means their financial growth will continue. We can't offer the same prospects, yes the asking price reflects this, but the massive stumbling blocks are they are in London, Europe and have a far better squad and gaffer than us, this is why we aren't IMHO anywhere near being sold.

Personally I agree, Hope im wrong and PDCs source is spot on though.

[Trotters]

Spurs are a far more attractive proposition than us I'm afraid, they won't be sold for £1bn it will be near £700m, they have a rich history, are in London, big support base, moving to a 57k all seated state of the art stadium, could be at wembley til they move, much better playing staff and manager, and most importantly they can challenge for CL and still comply with FFP, which means their financial growth will continue. We can't offer the same prospects, yes the asking price reflects this, but the massive stumbling blocks are they are in London, Europe and have a far better squad and gaffer than us, this is why we aren't IMHO anywhere near being sold.

£700m? Where's that number come from?

Didn't some analyst come out with a list last year that put Villa around £100m, Man Utd at £1bn and Spurs somewhere in between?

No way Tottingham Hyper-Spurt is worth close to £700m.

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