Re: The Steve Bruce thread

[achilles]

A few points to add to @De Kuip excellent post above:

Kodjia's return from injury has perhaps been the catalyst for the improvement.
The unchanged side is a MASSIVE plus as it breeds confidence with each other.
Winning also breeds confidence and obviously makes players believe in themselves more.
For me the most pleasing aspect of last night was seeing the players actually enjoying themselves playing for the club, they actually had a smile of their faces, perhaps we might see an actual team emerge from these talented individuals, the signs are looking up.

Sometimes managers do fall upon a system that works by accident and this seems to have happened to Bruce, it is now up to him to keep this self belief the players now seem to have and take it on with them for the rest of the season. Unfortunately for us the international break would appear to be coming at the wrong time.

[De Kuip]

A few points to add to @De Kuip excellent post above:

Kodjia's return from injury has perhaps been the catalyst for the improvement.
The unchanged side is a MASSIVE plus as it breeds confidence with each other.
Winning also breeds confidence and obviously makes players believe in themselves more.
For me the most pleasing aspect of last night was seeing the players actually enjoying themselves playing for the club, they actually had a smile of their faces, perhaps we might see an actual team emerge from these talented individuals, the signs are looking up.

Sometimes managers do fall upon a system that works by accident and this seems to have happened to Bruce, it is now up to him to keep this self belief the players now seem to have and take it on with them for the rest of the season. Unfortunately for us the international break would appear to be coming at the wrong time.

A la Conte at Chelski - injury forced 3 at the back and it was a revelation for them, yep, sometimes it happens.

At this rate I can get rid of the positivity thread as we'll not need a specific thread to be happy!

Just read a lengthy comment from a Brizzle fan who was at the Bolton game and said that their timewasting virtually from kick off was a disgrace - they seemed to realise that not much time ever gets added at the end of the first half, unlike the second, so used every opportunity they could to waste time - really dreadful. I hope we get an early goal against them same as Burton, and go on to destroy them. (I know this should go in the Villa Bolton thread but I'll have forgotten I've read it by the time @astonThriller starts the thread!).

[Guest]

well done brucie and the lads. Brucie seems to have got those throwings perfected now

[DelboyVilla]

After that dismal performance at the weekend how will we cope against a decent team? Bruce needs to go as the same rubbish football is still being served up! The only difference is now we are winning a few in spite of Potato Heads tactics!

[achilles]

I think that the next 5 games will define our season with Wolves (A), Fulham (H), Blues (A), Preston (A) and Sheff Weds (H), all hard games so we will have to play better or pay the consequences!

We really need at least 10 points from that lot if we have promotion aspirations!

[Guest]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

[Guest]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

brilliant. very entertaining.

[DelboyVilla]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

There's a long way to go and many decent teams to play yet! I still say get rid now and bring in a less deluded self pitying potato brained loser!

[Guest]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

There's a long way to go and many decent teams to play yet! I still say get rid now and bring in a less deluded self pitying potato brained loser!

[deadbuzzardalive]

He's failed to get Taylor's red card rescinded, but still that will be the perfect excuse for him should we fail in the coming games; but really there can't be any excuses, October has to continue like September if he wants to keep his job, and more importantly if we're to have any chance of getting promoted.

[FoxyAV]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

There's a long way to go and many decent teams to play yet! I still say get rid now and bring in a less deluded self pitying potato brained loser!

Come off it jimbop, Bruce didn't end up with 4-4-2 by choice, had we not had injuries to Kodjia and Grealish we'd be looking at a 4-4-1-1 still, with Lansbury or Onomah alongside Whelan or Jedi, and while it might have worked I'm not convinced it could have been as good as what we have now. Hourihane and Davis are only in the squad because of injuries, there's no way Davis would be playing if Gabby was fit, McCormack hadn't been such an idiot and with Hogan and Kodjia ahead of him. And yet Hourihane and Davis are now guaranteed starters. I'll put my hand up and say I wanted to see Green develop on the left and Grealish behind either Hogan (who knows, it might be what he needs) or Kodjia, but as soon as it became apparent Grealish wasn't going to be available it's taken weeks for Bruce to find out his starting 10 purely by accident. And I don't think we'll be an 11 until Whelan gets a red card and Bruce is forced to play Lansbury alongside Hourihane. Yes, Lansbury. He's not done so well so far but I reckon Hourihane will bring out the best in him. My point though is we haven't ended up here because of Bruce's genius, just by a lot of luck and because we have players like Davis, Hourihane and Adomah desperate to force their way into the first team.
Incidentally I'm warming to Elmo. I don't think he's a good defender and he just doesn't look fit but he works well with Snodgrass, and long may they prosper. I don't think Bruce is all wrong, for example once someone has shown they want to play he gives them a run (see Davis, Hourihane and probably some more). I do think if he stays he needs to work with someone who understands tactics and substitutions and he has to stop blaming the players when we lose. The buck stops with him.

[Guest]

My issue is that even if we continue winning, despite however shite the football is, would you really wanna have Steve Bruce guiding this club in the Premier League? I sure as feck wouldn't. Though I guess that's a problem we have to face if we get there.

There's a long way to go and many decent teams to play yet! I still say get rid now and bring in a less deluded self pitying potato brained loser!

Come off it jimbop, Bruce didn't end up with 4-4-2 by choice, had we not had injuries to Kodjia and Grealish we'd be looking at a 4-4-1-1 still, with Lansbury or Onomah alongside Whelan or Jedi, and while it might have worked I'm not convinced it could have been as good as what we have now. Hourihane and Davis are only in the squad because of injuries, there's no way Davis would be playing if Gabby was fit, McCormack hadn't been such an idiot and with Hogan and Kodjia ahead of him. And yet Hourihane and Davis are now guaranteed starters. I'll put my hand up and say I wanted to see Green develop on the left and Grealish behind either Hogan (who knows, it might be what he needs) or Kodjia, but as soon as it became apparent Grealish wasn't going to be available it's taken weeks for Bruce to find out his starting 10 purely by accident. And I don't think we'll be an 11 until Whelan gets a red card and Bruce is forced to play Lansbury alongside Hourihane. Yes, Lansbury. He's not done so well so far but I reckon Hourihane will bring out the best in him. My point though is we haven't ended up here because of Bruce's genius, just by a lot of luck and because we have players like Davis, Hourihane and Adomah desperate to force their way into the first team.
Incidentally I'm warming to Elmo. I don't think he's a good defender and he just doesn't look fit but he works well with Snodgrass, and long may they prosper. I don't think Bruce is all wrong, for example once someone has shown they want to play he gives them a run (see Davis, Hourihane and probably some more). I do think if he stays he needs to work with someone who understands tactics and substitutions and he has to stop blaming the players when we lose. The buck stops with him.

[Guest]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

[Guest]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

it certainly is

[achilles]

I just wonder how many other managers take a holiday in the international break, to my mind it just doesn't create a good impression especially to the players left behind on the training ground. Although I suppose if Bruce doesn't have anything to do with the training it really doesn't matter whether he is there or not but still not good in my eyes. Fair enough to have a couple of days off but not to fly off to his holiday home in Portugal.

I am not certain if he has had a holiday this time but he certainly did the last international break!

People will say that we are winning so what, but there is still a lot that can be sorted out on the training ground namely throw-ins and variations on corner kicks just to name a couple of things that we desperately need sorting out.

[FoxyAV]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

[Guest]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

yet again where have I abused someone? halfwit? you don't know me, so keep behind your keyboard with your insults.

[FoxyAV]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

yet again where have I abused someone? halfwit? you don't know me, so keep behind your keyboard with your insults.

No, I don't, but that's how you come across. Besides, how many posts past your final post is this? We thought you were off but you continue to bless us with your valuable insights.

[Guest]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

yet again where have I abused someone? halfwit? you don't know me, so keep behind your keyboard with your insults.

No, I don't, but that's how you come across. Besides, how many posts past your final post is this? We thought you were off but you continue to bless us with your valuable insights.  

I come across that way because I support bruce and you don't? another one where a bit of rubber would of saved us all. very cowardly abusing someone from behind a keyboard. no more insults please.

[FoxyAV]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

yet again where have I abused someone? halfwit? you don't know me, so keep behind your keyboard with your insults.

No, I don't, but that's how you come across. Besides, how many posts past your final post is this? We thought you were off but you continue to bless us with your valuable insights.  

I come across that way because I support bruce and you don't? another one where a bit of rubber would of saved us all.  very cowardly abusing someone from behind a keyboard.  no more insults please.

[Dazzle]

Much easier to just ignore him.

Don't agree regarding Elmo. I'd have Bree in any day of the week, but I wouldn't change anything as long as we're winning.

I agree, he appears to be a halfwit.

Oh, I'd rather invest in Bree and if we did make it to the Premier League Elmo would be ripped to shreds but with this newfound formation Bruce might have chanced upon something we've all known for some time - by engaging our attacking players and by playing them correctly we can actually beat opponents by attacking them, rather than sitting back, hoping they don't score and hoping we'll catch them on the counter. Elmo is an attacking player, which is entirely at odds with what Bruce has shown us in the first couple of months of the season, but if he works with Snoddy and we score more than we concede then let's go with the flow. We have other options if we need them.

I'd love us to have a new manager lined up and I believe we're winning in spite of Bruce but if it's working then best leave it for now. We're going to be torn apart in the PL playing the way we play but maybe the plan is to get there, replace the manager, replace most of the players and see how that goes. I don't like that but we'll just have to see how it goes.

yet again where have I abused someone? halfwit? you don't know me, so keep behind your keyboard with your insults.

No, I don't, but that's how you come across. Besides, how many posts past your final post is this? We thought you were off but you continue to bless us with your valuable insights.  

I come across that way because I support bruce and you don't? another one where a bit of rubber would of saved us all.  very cowardly abusing someone from behind a keyboard.  no more insults please.

Best go find yourself a soft-play area

[DelboyVilla]

This is definitely an argument against allowing 'patients' in secure wards access to the internet!!! Narcissistic sociopath behavior at it's classic!

[De Kuip]

Christ I'll be glad when the football starts. This thread is getting too snippy.

[DelboyVilla]

Christ I'll be glad when the football starts. This thread is getting too snippy.

Be careful what you wish for DK???

[mefromhere]

It could always be worse ... we could have Southgate in charge!!

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