The next Villa Manager

glad we didn't sign this embarrassment!! - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/see-moment-everton-loanee-enner-8995673

jimbop wrote:glad we didn't sign this embarrassment!! - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/see-moment-everton-loanee-enner-8995673

Fucking hilarious!

The bird must've done something for a man on £40K a week to refuse to fork out £15K, and go through all of that to avoid it

Villa_Dan wrote:

jimbop wrote:glad we didn't sign this embarrassment!! - http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/see-moment-everton-loanee-enner-8995673

Fucking hilarious!

The bird must've done something for a man on £40K a week to refuse to fork out £15K, and go through all of that to avoid it

exactly what I thought but also would think I'm loaded so pay the bitch and get rid!

That is off-the-planet bizarre. Dumb fuck footballers are too stupid to understand tactics but know how to plan an escape route from a stadium, mid-game.

And you just know Gabby is sending him an Instagram hi-5.

jimbop wrote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/aston-villa-new-manager-bookies-11993219

why the fooook would shearer know??

So Shearer has been in touch with Bruce but didn't ask how it went and then blabbed it to some other media outlet that then got printed up by the shitrag Mail.

I'm sure the club - who have been rather tight lipped about it all - will really love that potato head is telling his gobshite mates.

If it is true, hopefully this deflates his chances massively.

Trotters wrote:So Shearer has been in touch with Bruce but didn't ask how it went and then blabbed it to some other media outlet that then got printed up by the shitrag Mail.

I'm sure the club - who have been rather tight lipped about it all -  will really love that potato head is telling his gobshite mates.

If it is true, hopefully this deflates his chances massively.

does sound strange don't it

It will not be Bruce, if it was, the ink on the contract would be dry by now.

The board need to assess what impact the last 5 managers have had and learn from the failure of every one of them.

We need to go big, the bigger the better (bruce is the fattest not the biggest), break the bloody bank. It doesn't matter if we're top ten in the premiership or where we are now, this is Xia's Villa, not Lerner's Villa and it is still one of the most famous clubs in the world.

There are probably 15 to 20 managers in the game today that are not getable...........make a list of the best of the rest and get whoever is at the top of the list........... make it happen.

I disagree with our own fans that say we ain't the club we used to be, screw that, lets make this club what it should be.......... form is temporary, class is forever.

UTV

jimbop wrote:

jimbop wrote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/aston-villa-new-manager-bookies-11993219

why the fooook would shearer know??

I can only think that Wyness\Round have taken soundings - I would be very surprised if he has substantive talks.

Theres also a glimmer in there if you don't fancy Bruce. "He will want to do things his own way" - That might make Steve Round fearful for his job.

With a £1m + a year salary, on his doorstep, and probably the biggest club SB could hope to land. I can't see Brucey laying down too many t+c's ! Most likley he would get his feet under the table - then say how he wants things done once (if !) he has a few wins under his belt.....

I think Bruce is most likely - but not done waiting to be announced. Quite rightly Dr Tony will want to speak to him in person first.

There's a fair bit of support for Bruce - Don't quite know the birmingham mail seem to feel the need to run a 'brucey for villa campaign' - theres enough experience on that board now to recruit the right man - let em get on with it.

I don't even trust Bruce, his sole reason for wanting this job is money, he knows his limitations, he knows he will fail and he knows he will get £2/3million for failing.

4BetLite wrote:It will not be Bruce, if it was, the ink on the contract would be dry by now.

The board need to assess what impact the last 5 managers have had and learn from the failure of every one of them.

We need to go big, the bigger the better (bruce is the fattest not the biggest), break the bloody bank. It doesn't matter if we're top ten in the premiership or where we are now, this is Xia's Villa, not Lerner's Villa and it is still one of the most famous clubs in the world.

There are probably 15 to 20 managers in the game today that are not getable...........make a list of the best of the rest and get whoever is at the top of the list........... make it happen.

I disagree with our own fans that say we ain't the club we used to be, screw that, lets make this club what it should be.......... form is temporary, class is forever.

UTV

Problem with that is in the execution.

If you target and go for (lets say Eddie Howe) you've got to be pretty sure you get your man. Public rebuffs and declines make the situation unmanageable - and it quickly becomes the job 'no one wants' - thats when you end up with steve mclaren.

4BetLite wrote:I don't even trust Bruce, his sole reason for wanting this job is money, he knows his limitations, he knows he will fail and he knows he will get £2/3million for failing.

hes the most prolific manager in getting teams promoted, end of. I think to say he knows he will fail is a bit strange.

smetro wrote:

4BetLite wrote:It will not be Bruce, if it was, the ink on the contract would be dry by now.

The board need to assess what impact the last 5 managers have had and learn from the failure of every one of them.

We need to go big, the bigger the better (bruce is the fattest not the biggest), break the bloody bank. It doesn't matter if we're top ten in the premiership or where we are now, this is Xia's Villa, not Lerner's Villa and it is still one of the most famous clubs in the world.

There are probably 15 to 20 managers in the game today that are not getable...........make a list of the best of the rest and get whoever is at the top of the list........... make it happen.

I disagree with our own fans that say we ain't the club we used to be, screw that, lets make this club what it should be.......... form is temporary, class is forever.

UTV

Problem with that is in the execution.

If you target and go for (lets say Eddie Howe) you've got to be pretty sure you get your man. Public rebuffs and declines make the situation unmanageable - and it quickly becomes the job 'no one wants'  - thats when you end up with steve mclaren.

Absolutely mate, but this ain't fox and lerner, these people are professionals. Using Howe and Bouremouth as an example, quality people like Jeff Mostyn do their talking behind closed doors.

It does all depend on who we're dealing with though and it could well go tits up and damage our chances of bringing in a man with the profile and experience that we need as the media love jumping on us right now.

jimbop wrote:

4BetLite wrote:I don't even trust Bruce, his sole reason for wanting this job is money, he knows his limitations, he knows he will fail and he knows he will get £2/3million for failing.

hes the most prolific manager in getting teams promoted, end of. I think to say he knows he will fail is a bit strange.

Its about more then getting promoted Jim, Xia's vision is that and much much more............. the only way I would even entertain him is on a short term contract, give him the opportunity to get us up, with a decent bonus and the knowledge that he will be moved on if we go up.

4BetLite wrote:

jimbop wrote:

4BetLite wrote:I don't even trust Bruce, his sole reason for wanting this job is money, he knows his limitations, he knows he will fail and he knows he will get £2/3million for failing.

hes the most prolific manager in getting teams promoted, end of. I think to say he knows he will fail is a bit strange.

Its about more then getting promoted Jim, Xia's vision is that and much much more............. the only way I would even entertain him is on a short term contract, give him the opportunity to get us up, with a decent bonus and the knowledge that he will be moved on if we go up.

agreed mate, to be honest I think anyone who gets us up may well be shown the door to bring a big big name in as I really think Xia will go all out to get us challenging once were back up

sorry wrong thread but really made me chuckle, plenty of time now to go the apple store and sort that self posting phone out http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-aston-villa-defender-rocked-11993266

My problem with Bruce is the fact that I see no future with him as a manager. If he gets us promoted I can't see us getting anywhere without sacking him first. Thus he can't be the right man for us. And before the "surely getting promoted is the most important thing right now" arguments come, I simply can't believe we can't find a manager that can get us promoted with our budget while at the same time have the potential to develop us in the league we truly belong.

Dr. Tony Xia ‏@Dr_TonyXia 22m22 minutes ago

Updates:We've working hard last week from25to10to3(not as reported)to2.Have to state again that our decision was nothing due to impatience.

Joppe84 wrote:My problem with Bruce is the fact that I see no future with him as a manager. If he gets us promoted I can't see us getting anywhere without sacking him first. Thus he can't be the right man for us. And before the "surely getting promoted is the most important thing right now" arguments come, I simply can't believe we can't find a manager that can get us promoted with our budget while at the same time have the potential to develop us in the league we truly belong.

its because were in the championship geeza, very difficult to attract a big name or someone whom has the potential to carry on in the prem

jimbop wrote:

Joppe84 wrote:My problem with Bruce is the fact that I see no future with him as a manager. If he gets us promoted I can't see us getting anywhere without sacking him first. Thus he can't be the right man for us. And before the "surely getting promoted is the most important thing right now" arguments come, I simply can't believe we can't find a manager that can get us promoted with our budget while at the same time have the potential to develop us in the league we truly belong.

its because were in the championship geeza, very difficult to attract a big name or someone whom has the potential to carry on in the prem

I 100% disagree with that. What you need to do then is to hire potential. Like that bloke at Huddersfield has shown. Or Paul Lambert with Norwich. Or Rowett is showing. Or JG did for us.

Perhaps they will make the step up, but at least then it's a slight chance it can happen. Getting in someone whom you know won't cut it is just depressing.

Joppe84 wrote:

jimbop wrote:

Joppe84 wrote:My problem with Bruce is the fact that I see no future with him as a manager. If he gets us promoted I can't see us getting anywhere without sacking him first. Thus he can't be the right man for us. And before the "surely getting promoted is the most important thing right now" arguments come, I simply can't believe we can't find a manager that can get us promoted with our budget while at the same time have the potential to develop us in the league we truly belong.

its because were in the championship geeza, very difficult to attract a big name or someone whom has the potential to carry on in the prem

I 100% disagree with that. What you need to do then is to hire potential. Like that bloke at Huddersfield has shown. Or Paul Lambert with Norwich. Or Rowett is showing. Or JG did for us.

Perhaps they will make the step up, but at least then it's a slight chance it can happen. Getting in someone whom you know won't cut it is just depressing.

I see your point

Xia's twitter feed reads like we've got someone?

The risk with hiring on potential is that we are already too close to the relegation zone for comfort and we can't afford to not get promoted within 2 seasons

I'd rather be relegated again if the other option is being another nothing team that never achieves success. If you want success you gotta take the leap.

Bruce might get us promoted in a couple of years, but it also leads to replacing Bruce in the Premier League which puts us back in the same boat with no continuity. He might get teams promoted, but he also leaves them in the shit and they ultimately end up relegated again.