Managers, who would we want?
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Re: Managers, who would we want?
Keyser Soze wrote:It's a management team to be announced tomorrow not the new owner. Expect a youngish foreign manager and either interpreter or DOF. I think we've signed an Austrian kid and two lads from saints.
I am starting to very much like the cut of your jib!
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Yes its him.whiteensign wrote:Murat Yakin
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Can we ask your source or would you prefer to leave that off the books?
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Yakin would need an interpreter...just watched a youtube video of an interview after one of the Chelsea games...
BUT its been rumoured elsewhere that Yakin is Red Bulls preferred choice? ??? Should we read anything into that?
BUT its been rumoured elsewhere that Yakin is Red Bulls preferred choice? ??? Should we read anything into that?
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A management "team" to be announced tomorrow before the current manager(s) future is?
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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"I'll believe it when I see it" really goes without saying. Even if Admin says it's 99% nailed on, then the proof is still in the pudding.
It's a moot point.
Moving on...how do we know he's connected to Red Bull?
It's a moot point.
Moving on...how do we know he's connected to Red Bull?
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Keyser Soze wrote:Yes its him.whiteensign wrote:Murat Yakin
Wow Really? Would be chuffed with that
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2014/04/10/4737306/the-next-guardiola-marvellous-murat-yakin-deserves-a-chance
The next Guardiola? Marvellous Murat Yakin deserves a chance at the very top
The Basel boss continues to perform miracles in Europe with a squad blighted by injuries and departures to bigger clubs - that he will soon follow suit seems only right
Against all the odds and the expectations of the continent, Basel made history last season by reaching their first European semi-final. Twelve months on, with dreams of a treble still alive as their domestic superiority continues, the Swiss champions are on the brink of the last four again after dismantling Valencia in the Europa League quarter-final first leg.
All this with a squad size and financial backing which barely register on the Richter scale of the continent's biggest movers and shakers. Little wonder, then, that coach Murat Yakin is becoming one of Europe's hottest properties.
On the brink of joining Schalke before the deal fell through, thw einger has speed and skill in abundance - and a wicked finish.While Basel are no strangers to Europe's top table, they have always remained small fry among the continental elite. Shock Champions League wins over Manchester United and Bayern Munich in 2011-12 were seen as one-off triumphs rather than signs of genuine progress under coach Thorsten Fink (and later Heiko Vogel). A 7-0 thrashing at the Allianz Arena that season was a return to the norm.
Yakin has changed that perception. After guiding Luzern to second in the league and a place in the Schweizer Cup final, the former midfielder was picked to replace Vogel in October 2012 after Basel picked up just four wins in their first 11 games. Yakin promptly defended Basel's league crown reached the cup final against Grasshopper Zurich. A penalty shoot-out defeat handed their rivals their first trophy in 10 years, and remains Yakin's sole blot on his Basel copybook.
But it was in European competition where he began to capture attention. Building his side around a flexible 4-2-3-1 system, Basel despatched Dnipro and Zenit with minimal fuss before their historic win over Andre Villas-Boas' Tottenham last season. Defeat to eventual winners Chelsea followed, but Yakin – far from accepting an inevitable end to the dream – was already plotting revenge.
Summer brought more transition to the club: the departure of outstanding defensive prospect Aleksandar Dragovic and the retirement of club icon Alex Frei could have been enough to destabilise FCB in the past. But not under Yakin. In came former players Matias Delgado and Behrang Safari, Ivan Ivanov and later Marek Suchy bolstered the defence, and the core talent of Yann Sommer, Fabian Frei, Mohamed Salah and Valentin Stocker was retained.
Yakin also toyed with his tactics. The 4-2-3-1 system was adapted to a 4-1-4-1 for Basel's more difficult games, with Fabian Frei moved into the midfield pivot role (one which Yakin adopted for club and country as a player) to allow more creative freedom for Stocker, Salah and new signing Giovanni Sio further forward. It was a system deployed for spells of the game at Stamford Bridge, as Basel inflicted upon Jose Mourinho his only home defeat thus far since his return to Chelsea and a first win in 20 attempts for Swiss sides in England.
By the time Salah struck the winner in the return fixture - and sealed his own January move to the Blues - Yakin was a noisy blip on the European radar, buoyed by the "beautiful" praise of Mourinho. Hannover made enquiries, which the 39-year-old dismissed; Tottenham, having dispensed with Villas-Boas, reportedly named him on a shortlist of options which included Louis van Gaal and Ajax coach Frank de Boer. Stellar company indeed.
Injuries soon mounted; Schar's three-month convalescence was made worse by a host of further absentees. So Yakin changed again: Frei was moved into the back four, Mohamed Elneny and Serey Die took charge of the midfield engine room, and Basel stayed top of the Super League before putting Europa League top-scorers Red Bull Salzburg out of the competition with a whimper.
Against Valencia, with no recognised strikers available, five defenders sidelined and St Jakob Park empty after a supporter ban, the end of the road seemed inevitable - this was a team who beat Barcelona at Camp Nou, after all. But not so. Yakin started the match with Delgado as a false 10, with Stocker and David Degen either side on the wings. Delgado scored his first goals since September; Basel were free-flowing, supremely disciplined and up for the fight. And yet the win came as no surprise to Yakin's charges.
"It's not incredible for us," Delgado said after the match. "We believed that we could do something like that, for sure. Maybe we didn't think about winning 3-0, but our team beat Chelsea, these lads have a lot of experience with big teams – you can see it, you can feel it." Yakin has never lost by three or more goals in Europe. Don't expect this belief to waver in Spain on Thursday.
On the brink of more domestic silverware and a second-successive Europa League semi-final, Yakin's stock has never been higher, and he will be primed to listen to any offers from abroad this summer as he enters the final year of his contract. The Bundesliga and the Premier League remain the most likely possible destination; some of his Basel stars could even join him.
As a player, Yakin struggled to cement himself at clubs outside of Switzerland. Stuttgart, Kaiserslautern and Fenerbahce (twice) all tried and failed to coax the best from him on the pitch. But should he continue to flourish in the dugout, the man already regarded as one of Basel's greatest-ever servants could yet become their finest export to date.
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its been mentioned tentatively on other forums...some of it wild speculation...like on the astonvilla rumours site (yes I know hardly conclusive) and posters on VT seem convinced its Red Bull too:-
14 May 2014 19:01:33
Talk that a large Austrian energy drink company (no surprises who!) have been in the frame all along to take over the villa, hearing the turn around will happen swiftly with players coming in and out, one name that will start to do the rounds is Taison as other teams are circling the brazilian after having a unsuccessful time in Ukraine.
Only mumblings so far but Red Bull are keen on Murat Yakin as a potential manager, he was touted to take over a unnamed ligue 1 side they had a interest in.
14 May 2014 19:01:33
Talk that a large Austrian energy drink company (no surprises who!) have been in the frame all along to take over the villa, hearing the turn around will happen swiftly with players coming in and out, one name that will start to do the rounds is Taison as other teams are circling the brazilian after having a unsuccessful time in Ukraine.
Only mumblings so far but Red Bull are keen on Murat Yakin as a potential manager, he was touted to take over a unnamed ligue 1 side they had a interest in.
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If this turns out to be true, it would certainly show that the new owners have a bit of imagination.
I mean this guy vs Moyes?
I mean this guy vs Moyes?
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Keyser Soze wrote:It's a management team to be announced tomorrow not the new owner. Expect a youngish foreign manager and either interpreter or DOF. I think we've signed an Austrian kid and two lads from saints.
We could have done with an interpreter for Lambert.
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Tomorrow will be interesting
Lambert sacked, Yakin appointed.
Lambert sacked, Yakin appointed.
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Cathal Coughlan's Dog wrote:Keyser Soze wrote:It's a management team to be announced tomorrow not the new owner. Expect a youngish foreign manager and either interpreter or DOF. I think we've signed an Austrian kid and two lads from saints.
We could have done with an interpreter for Lambert.
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No one is sure who the new owners are because apparently there were four serious bidders. The three names I heard were Kraft mentioned a few weeks ago, Red Bull mentioned a few months ago and Ellison the name on everyone's lips in and around Villa Park, I don't know who the fourth party are. Ellison is most likely a distraction tactic. It was expected to be completed in May and someone is sanctioning these albeit youngsters deals and it's not Lerner.clarryblue wrote:Yakin would need an interpreter...just watched a youtube video of an interview after one of the Chelsea games...
BUT its been rumoured elsewhere that Yakin is Red Bulls preferred choice? ??? Should we read anything into that?
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I don't think Red Bull or Yakin are involved in any way.
I think Yakin quit because he got smell of the Valencia or Saints job.
I think Yakin quit because he got smell of the Valencia or Saints job.
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So no new owners anounced but Yakin? I will take that lol, He can get the club playing this new modern passing style and will know foreign bargains to sign niiiiice exciting, cheers Keyser mate
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It just goes to show how far the wheels have rolled away for Villa that anyone would even consider Southampton over us.
What a sad demise.
What a sad demise.
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It just goes to show how far the wheels have rolled away for Villa that anyone would even consider Southampton over us. wrote:
Was thinking the same, but unfortunately, Saints are in a different class to us now
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He would fit Saints perfectly
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HarryAVFC wrote:
Was thinking the same, but unfortunately, Saints are in a different class to us now
this season, yes. but it could well change quickly - Southampton got a lot of debts* and the big clubs are circling round their best players and their manager could be off to Spurs.
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26813363
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I know nothing of Sakin but have obviously noticed what a grand job he has done at Basel.. Thanks for the info Keyser and putting you neck in the lunette. Fingers crossed for you it comes off
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Considering Keyser has been quite a skeptic at times fairplay to him on this but I am convinced he is Valencia bound but if he rocked up at VP I would be pleasantly delighted.
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switters wrote:HarryAVFC wrote:
Was thinking the same, but unfortunately, Saints are in a different class to us now
this season, yes. but it could well change quickly - Southampton got a lot of debts* and the big clubs are circling round their best players and their manager could be off to Spurs.
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26813363
Did not realize that. so the money they are getting for shaw will only be used to pay the 27 Mill they own to other clubs ?
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Remember the Friday before the Hull game peolple were being shown around Bodymoor Heath, well I got a message from someone who was there saying "Turkish connection". After Yakin resigned on Friday I asked him is it him and he said yes he was shown around and was very impressed.
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It's an "out of left field" choice for the Premier League.
Take any of the names that have been suggested as new owners and you have to wonder who is advising them to pull that name out of the hat. Assuming there's any truth in it (Keyser's ITK status is riding on this ) then it would seem the new owners have already got some kind of DoF in place.
Take any of the names that have been suggested as new owners and you have to wonder who is advising them to pull that name out of the hat. Assuming there's any truth in it (Keyser's ITK status is riding on this ) then it would seem the new owners have already got some kind of DoF in place.
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