Re: Jores Okore

by **Trotters** Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:15 pm

The reason starts with Pau and ends in ambert.

He was really good, wasn't he? Very impressive. Seems to have it all...positioning, good in the air, strong in the tackle, fast as fuck.

Still, that'll probably be the last we ever see of him. And that's a shame.

by Mazrim Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Hopefully we'll see him a lot more and Lambert a lot lot less soon.

by mefromhere Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:07 pm

Okore was brilliant tonight and I know this is a thread about him but it seems to be every player Lambert tries to force out is actually deserving of a place in the team!
I would also like to say that Clark had an absolute stormer tonight and showed exactly why there was promise in him years ago.

by Green Villan Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:13 pm

Okore and Guzan, difficult to pick between them for MOTM. Very impressed with Jores tonight, he really showed Lambert that he was a dick head for not picking him, hell he even made Clark look good and that's hard, if Lambert drops him after this brilliant performance then I don't blame him if he fucks off in January (I'm hoping Lambert is gone before that damage happens, same with Tekkerz too).

by kimbo Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:37 pm

While Vlaar is different because of his age and how many opportunities he has left, but away from him the only chance we have of holding on to the likes of Okore, Benteke, Grealish - maybe even Delph - in my opinion, is a new manager. But, y'know; a good one!

by Green Villan Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:42 pm

Exactly Kimbo mate.

by jeffvilla Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:08 am

Bang on Kimbo Very Happy

by **Trotters** Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:28 am

True. True.

And whilst there are those that still believe Lambert to be the man, the players have made it clear that he's not.

How much would it cost to pay Lambert off and replace him? Then ask how much it will cost to replace Vlaar, Benteke, Delph, Okore, etc.

by gdav Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:42 am

Trotters wrote:True. True.

And whilst there are those that still believe Lambert to be the man, the players have made it clear that he's not.

How much would it cost to pay Lambert off and replace him? Then ask how much it will cost to replace Vlaar, Benteke, Delph, Okore, etc.

Does anyone have any inside info on the rumour that he only gets a 12 month pay out??
Surely if that's the case he should of gone already??

by **Trotters** Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:48 am

I'd like to think an emergency meeting was held between Randy and Tom Fox with a discussion around Lambert's future. No doubt Randy backed his man as he has time and time and time again having faith in him that just isn't warranted. But if he has relented, I doubt he'd agree to fire him on the spot but would extend one last chance.

If I put my Randy hat on (oo-er!) I'd look at the next half dozen matches and set a minimum points target. Once it gets to the stage where it can't be met, it's hasta lasagna.

And I think there's something to be read in Lambert's comments prior to the Southampton game, his demeanor during it and his statements after.

I think the fuse on this bomb has been lit.

by villabromsgrove Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:10 pm

Okore has been saying for some time that he was fit to play, Lambert has continually said that he wasn't fit enough. Last night showed that Okore was right. He had more energy and covered more ground than most of our players.

by gdav Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:24 pm

Trotters wrote:I'd like to think an emergency meeting was held between Randy and Tom Fox with a discussion around Lambert's future. No doubt Randy backed his man as he has time and time and time again having faith in him that just isn't warranted. But if he has relented, I doubt he'd agree to fire him on the spot but would extend one last chance.

If I put my Randy hat on (oo-er!) I'd look at the next half dozen matches and set a minimum points target. Once it gets to the stage where it can't be met, it's hasta lasagna.

And I think there's something to be read in Lambert's comments prior to the Southampton game, his demeanor during it and his statements after.

I think the fuse on this bomb has been lit.

I'd love for this to be the case. I can't take much more of this clueless muppet.

by villabromsgrove Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:34 pm

It's more than a little worrying that Okore has again talked to the Danish press (since his excellent performance Monday night) and said that he is still considering his future in January. Apparently he is unhappy that Lambert ignored him for weeks when Jores thought that he was fully fit and ready to play. He also indicates that he thinks the other CB's will come straight back in when they're fit and that will leave him back out in the cold.

What is wrong with Paul Lambert?

by Army villain Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:20 pm

It's normal for Lambert has no idea of management.
And it's a bit to late to send him on a course, he has treated a lot of players badly. Look at the youngsters.
The bomb squad another mess,and people wonder why he has lost the dressing room, need more with what is wrong with Lambert.
And he has only one game plan.

by achilles Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:57 am

To be fair it was brilliant to get Okore in the first place but it astonishes me to then see Lambert treat him like this!
It beggars the question if Lambert had anything to do with signing him in the first place and just wants to make a point now. However Okore is the future of the club and if fit should be starting every game, if ever he goes I would do my bloody nut! Jores Okore - Page 6 1715320296

Lambert is again highlighting how his man management skills are absolutely non-existent!

by Morpheus Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:19 pm

One would hope that it is his shirt to lose now?

Any manager worth his salt will know that the best way to motivate players is to keep them in the team when they are playing well. To drop them when doing so would ruin team morale and I sincerely hope this doesn't happen since the back four as a unit played so well against Southampton.

by villabromsgrove Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:02 pm

Morpheus wrote:One would hope that it is his shirt to lose now?

Any manager worth his salt will know that the best way to motivate players is to keep them in the team when they are playing well. To drop them when doing so would ruin team morale and I sincerely hope this doesn't happen since the back four as a unit played so well against Southampton.

Fortunately I don't think Lambert could drop him for a few weeks even if he wanted to. Okore is rightly worried that in a few matches he'll be replaced with fit again more senior centre backs. That tells us that he doesn't trust Lambert's judgement.

by **Trotters** Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:00 am

As Morpheus has said, it's his top to lose now. That's the way football management should work. If he drops him immediately and brings back Vlaar, SenderBoss or Baker, it creates not only a problem with Okore but also says to the other centre backs that their place in the team is secure regardless of performance.

If I was Lambert, I'd leave Okore in the starting eleven. However, this philosophy creates a problem in that I'd have to apply the same standards to Clark who also had an excellent game....and I just don't fully trust him not to fuck up.

What Lambert will do is replace Okore instantly and say that he only got a run by default and that doesn't count.

by villabromsgrove Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:51 am

Can Okore and Clark continue their Monday night form? We will know in a few hours time.

by **Trotters** Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:29 pm

Two games, two good performance, 4 points.

But, as the manager has said, he's not fit and not ready. :wanker:

by Green Villan Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:40 pm

Clark will be back to standard next game.

by Villa_Dan Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:42 pm

Get Sendo fit and play him with Okore. Tell Vlaar if he doesn't want to sign a contract he can sit on the bench

by Green Villan Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:47 pm

Agreed Dan.

by **Trotters** Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:33 am

A big 10/4 from me, too.

by **Trotters** Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:35 am

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/aston-villa/news/okore-really-happy-to-be-back-in-villa-side_191919.html

Jores Okore "really happy" to be back in Aston Villa side

By Sian Cowper, Reporter

Jores Okore has admitted that he is "really happy" to be seeing regular action with Aston Villa after a spell out with injury last season.

The defender missed the majority of the 2013-14 campaign with a knee ligament injury, allowing others to establish themselves ahead of him in the pecking order at Villa Park, but injuries to his teammates this season have let him reclaim a place in the side.

The 22-year-old told the Birmingham Mail: "I'm really happy at the moment to be back on the teamsheet. Just to be playing again is really nice.

"It was very hard last season especially coming to a new country and a new place. You really want to come in and make a difference but I wasn't able to do that.

"Now I'm getting there. I'm taking it step by step. I feel more comfortable here now than last year. It has been a long transition because I haven't been a part of the team."

Okore is expected to make his fourth straight start when the team face Leicester City in the Premier League on Sunday.

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