Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

[Guest]

http://www.leparisien.fr/psg-foot-paris-saint-germain/la-reforme-secrete-qui-fait-mal-au-psg-11-06-2015-4852013.php

via google translate:-

"PSG may be very disappointed. Mid-May, Michel Platini announced that the financial fair play would be "light", paving the way for all possible interpretations.

Even the most favorable to the interests of the Parisian club. While passing through the capital yesterday, the head of European football has given no further indication. "The financial fair play will last," said he simply dropped. So what is it really? A study for several months, a reform will be submitted to the vote of the executive committee of UEFA at the end of June.

The latest version of the text, including "Le Parisien" - "Today in France" has read, it is carried by a major change. Currently, all clubs involved in European competitions, whatever their economic profiles, are forced to balance their revenues and expenditures within the limits of a deficit of € 45 million (deficit accumulated over the last three seasons). This financial orthodoxy will be a possibility of derogation from the 2015-2016 season. It is available to new entrants, the great fortunes that come to buy a club, want to invest heavily in the transfer market to integrate the Champions League ... and touch the stars as quickly as possible.

The idea is the following: subject to the acceptance of their applications and their business plan, a lucky new owner will now fairly widely exceed the maximum allowable deficit without risking sanctions. To what extent? No limits to date in stone. This exemption will be valid for four seasons. In return, shareholders must absorb each year the losses of their clubs, follow the operating schedule drawn up in consultation with UEFA and then, after four years, back into line.

Means more freedom and flexibility, this reform would delight PSG or AS Monaco, to name a few. Problem: it is intended to apply only to future new entrants! But Qatar Sports Investments, head of the Paris Club since 2011, can no longer be stored under this label. An injustice? "Financial fair play is like a badly made suit, persifle been a Parisian despisers of reform. It was nice to him retouching, one always looks like a penguin when it was on the back. "

Michel Platini does not see it that way and did not deprive some pikes "PSG disabled? Yet he has won everything (laughs). Not in Europe? Ah yes, it's true. Too bad! Is this going to fix the hierarchy? I saw Juventus in the final of the Champions League this year, which had not happened to him for twelve years. Last season, it was Real Madrid who had not won for twelve years against Atlético Madrid, absent at this level for twenty-five years. I do not see where it freezes things. Anyway, I know this much interested you, the French, because there PSG. If Qatar had invested in Milan, you would be bothered right now! "
"

wow!!! come on larry, come on larry

[smetro]

this is fitting together...Platini originally said they would discuss end of June (not sure how long it takes to ratify?)...transfer window opens Jul 1st...our 6 weeks exclusivity situation takes us into July...

If I was about to buy Villa, I'd definitely hold off on signing on the dotted line until these clause has been ratified (unless I didn't want to spend much) It's a chance to jump and gate crash the big time. Keep an close eye on that situation..

How much could we currently spend - assuming FFP stays as it is. Probably more than last summers £8m ?

[Villa_Dan]

this is fitting together...Platini originally said they would discuss end of June (not sure how long it takes to ratify?)...transfer window opens Jul 1st...our 6 weeks exclusivity situation takes us into July...

If I was about to buy Villa, I'd definitely hold off on signing on the dotted line until these clause has been ratified (unless I didn't want to spend much) It's a chance to jump and gate crash the big time. Keep an close eye on that situation..

How much could we currently spend - assuming FFP stays as it is. Probably more than last summers £8m ?

We aren't in Europe so we can make losses of £105m over 3 seasons. So about £100m on top of what we earn?

[Suits]

http://www.leparisien.fr/psg-foot-paris-saint-germain/la-reforme-secrete-qui-fait-mal-au-psg-11-06-2015-4852013.php

via google translate:-

"PSG may be very disappointed. Mid-May, Michel Platini announced that the financial fair play would be "light", paving the way for all possible interpretations.

Even the most favorable to the interests of the Parisian club. While passing through the capital yesterday, the head of European football has given no further indication. "The financial fair play will last," said he simply dropped. So what is it really? A study for several months, a reform will be submitted to the vote of the executive committee of UEFA at the end of June.

The latest version of the text, including "Le Parisien" - "Today in France" has read, it is carried by a major change. Currently, all clubs involved in European competitions, whatever their economic profiles, are forced to balance their revenues and expenditures within the limits of a deficit of € 45 million (deficit accumulated over the last three seasons). This financial orthodoxy will be a possibility of derogation from the 2015-2016 season. It is available to new entrants, the great fortunes that come to buy a club, want to invest heavily in the transfer market to integrate the Champions League ... and touch the stars as quickly as possible.

The idea is the following: subject to the acceptance of their applications and their business plan, a lucky new owner will now fairly widely exceed the maximum allowable deficit without risking sanctions. To what extent? No limits to date in stone. This exemption will be valid for four seasons. In return, shareholders must absorb each year the losses of their clubs, follow the operating schedule drawn up in consultation with UEFA and then, after four years, back into line.

Means more freedom and flexibility, this reform would delight PSG or AS Monaco, to name a few. Problem: it is intended to apply only to future new entrants! But Qatar Sports Investments, head of the Paris Club since 2011, can no longer be stored under this label. An injustice? "Financial fair play is like a badly made suit, persifle been a Parisian despisers of reform. It was nice to him retouching, one always looks like a penguin when it was on the back. "

Michel Platini does not see it that way and did not deprive some pikes "PSG disabled? Yet he has won everything (laughs). Not in Europe? Ah yes, it's true. Too bad! Is this going to fix the hierarchy? I saw Juventus in the final of the Champions League this year, which had not happened to him for twelve years. Last season, it was Real Madrid who had not won for twelve years against Atlético Madrid, absent at this level for twenty-five years. I do not see where it freezes things. Anyway, I know this much interested you, the French, because there PSG. If Qatar had invested in Milan, you would be bothered right now! "
"

wow!!! come on larry, come on larry

I want it to be him purely to see your reaction on here lol

[smetro]

this is fitting together...Platini originally said they would discuss end of June (not sure how long it takes to ratify?)...transfer window opens Jul 1st...our 6 weeks exclusivity situation takes us into July...

If I was about to buy Villa, I'd definitely hold off on signing on the dotted line until these clause has been ratified (unless I didn't want to spend much) It's a chance to jump and gate crash the big time. Keep an close eye on that situation..

How much could we currently spend - assuming FFP stays as it is. Probably more than last summers £8m ?

We aren't in Europe so we can make losses of £105m over 3 seasons. So about £100m on top of what we earn?

So unless our prospective owners are Man City types - does FFP change anything ?

TBH if our new owners comes in and gives us £40m for players that woiuld be a breath of fresh air .......

[Villa_Dan]

Realistically if they came in and spent £60m plus kept Tekkers then we'd jump up the table. Regardless of manager, the better players would pull us up. They could then spend £40m the season after (assuming revenue streams don't go up) and still be within current FFP. Wouldn't be too shabby for a start.

Although if Larry Ellison would like to come in and spend £150m this season and take us straight into the top 7 that'd be lovely!!

[Guest]

Realistically if they came in and spent £60m plus kept Tekkers then we'd jump up the table. Regardless of manager, the better players would pull us up. They could then spend £40m the season after (assuming revenue streams don't go up) and still be within current FFP. Wouldn't be too shabby for a start.

Although if Larry Ellison would like to come in and spend £150m this season and take us straight into the top 7 that'd be lovely!!

come on larry

[Guest]

Larry Ellison, Oracle's billionaire cofounder and current CTO, is famous for his brash personality.

He's shown time and time again that he's [b]willing to go to great lengths to win, both in business and in his extracurricular activities.

[GadgetMan]

Realistically if they came in and spent £60m plus kept Tekkers then we'd jump up the table. Regardless of manager, the better players would pull us up. They could then spend £40m the season after (assuming revenue streams don't go up) and still be within current FFP. Wouldn't be too shabby for a start.

Although if Larry Ellison would like to come in and spend £150m this season and take us straight into the top 7 that'd be lovely!!

I could live with that haha!! Oh to dream! Could the stars finally be aligning for Villa? Wouldn't it be just fab to see us back on the big stage and genuinely competing with the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd, etc as opposed to hoping Hull lose to keep us up!! Make it happen RL and mystery buyers, pleeeassseeee!!!

[ViewFromT2]

It's not gonna be Larry Ellison guys...lets get real!

He's ploughing a lot of money into American Tennis at the moment...does he even invest anything on foreign soil?

If the buy is from US, it will be one from AEG Sport, Mickey Arison, Cain Hoy or Josh Harris in my opinion.

[Guest]

Realistically if they came in and spent £60m plus kept Tekkers then we'd jump up the table. Regardless of manager, the better players would pull us up. They could then spend £40m the season after (assuming revenue streams don't go up) and still be within current FFP. Wouldn't be too shabby for a start.

Although if Larry Ellison would like to come in and spend £150m this season and take us straight into the top 7 that'd be lovely!!

I could live with that haha!! Oh to dream! Could the stars finally be aligning for Villa? Wouldn't it be just fab to see us back on the big stage and genuinely competing with the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd, etc as opposed to hoping Hull lose to keep us up!! Make it happen RL and mystery buyers, pleeeassseeee!!!

it would be incredible

[deadbuzzardalive]

I'd actually prefer to be taken over by a group like Dalian Wanda than Larry Ellison.

[Guest]

I'd actually prefer to be taken over by a group like Dalian Wanda than Larry Ellison.

that Dalian wanda group would also be awesome, without doubt.

[Guest]

[kimbo]

Am I the only one who thinks theres still a reasonable chance we start the season still under Lerners ownership ?

I'm the same as you. I was only born in '92 but for as long as I can really remember, we've always been the punchline to a horribly unfunny joke. We had a nice break finishing 6th with O'Neill but even in 09 we blew the CL after being about 10 points clear. Maybe it's just the horrific crap we've been browbeaten with the last 5 years but I keep fearing the worst rather than hoping for the best these days!

Ah I feel sorry for people your age. I mean, I'm 34, born the month we won the league so was 1 when we won the European Cup, and therefore of course too young to remember that; but at least I got to see the first Graham Taylor team, Big Ron's side and Brian Little's as well. However, for people your age, MON's era is pretty much the pinnacle! How awful.

Hopefully that will change in the coming years for you dude!  :)

[kimbo]

"report on FFP in Le Parisien. It claims Uefa will allow new owners four years free spending before FFP kicks in"   - Get us sold & let the spending commence

Well this just crapped all over my last post!!

[kimbo]

http://www.leparisien.fr/psg-foot-paris-saint-germain/la-reforme-secrete-qui-fait-mal-au-psg-11-06-2015-4852013.php

via google translate:-

"PSG may be very disappointed. Mid-May, Michel Platini announced that the financial fair play would be "light", paving the way for all possible interpretations.

Even the most favorable to the interests of the Parisian club. While passing through the capital yesterday, the head of European football has given no further indication. "The financial fair play will last," said he simply dropped. So what is it really? A study for several months, a reform will be submitted to the vote of the executive committee of UEFA at the end of June.

The latest version of the text, including "Le Parisien" - "Today in France" has read, it is carried by a major change. Currently, all clubs involved in European competitions, whatever their economic profiles, are forced to balance their revenues and expenditures within the limits of a deficit of € 45 million (deficit accumulated over the last three seasons). This financial orthodoxy will be a possibility of derogation from the 2015-2016 season. It is available to new entrants, the great fortunes that come to buy a club, want to invest heavily in the transfer market to integrate the Champions League ... and touch the stars as quickly as possible.

The idea is the following: subject to the acceptance of their applications and their business plan, a lucky new owner will now fairly widely exceed the maximum allowable deficit without risking sanctions. To what extent? No limits to date in stone. This exemption will be valid for four seasons. In return, shareholders must absorb each year the losses of their clubs, follow the operating schedule drawn up in consultation with UEFA and then, after four years, back into line.

Means more freedom and flexibility, this reform would delight PSG or AS Monaco, to name a few. Problem: it is intended to apply only to future new entrants! But Qatar Sports Investments, head of the Paris Club since 2011, can no longer be stored under this label. An injustice? "Financial fair play is like a badly made suit, persifle been a Parisian despisers of reform. It was nice to him retouching, one always looks like a penguin when it was on the back. "

Michel Platini does not see it that way and did not deprive some pikes "PSG disabled? Yet he has won everything (laughs). Not in Europe? Ah yes, it's true. Too bad! Is this going to fix the hierarchy? I saw Juventus in the final of the Champions League this year, which had not happened to him for twelve years. Last season, it was Real Madrid who had not won for twelve years against Atlético Madrid, absent at this level for twenty-five years. I do not see where it freezes things. Anyway, I know this much interested you, the French, because there PSG. If Qatar had invested in Milan, you would be bothered right now! "
"

wow!!! come on larry, come on larry

I want it to be him purely to see your reaction on here lol

[TED]

Suits where's your last post gone.
I assume you believe you know who the new owners are?

[GadgetMan]

It's not gonna be Larry Ellison guys...lets get real!

He's ploughing a lot of money into American Tennis at the moment...does he even invest anything on foreign soil?

If the buy is from US, it will be one from AEG Sport, Mickey Arison, Cain Hoy or Josh Harris in my opinion.

T2 I don't think ANYONE genuinely thinks Ellison is remotely interested in us. There's having a laugh about things and then there's sensible thought processes. Don't confuse the two!

[tbarrules]

Anyone know who Bought Randy's house near Bodymoor? Maybe a clue is in that?

Anyone Else surprised none of The media outlets have linked us to dalian wanda group? They
denied it Last time when they in the papers with Southampton so why haven't We been linked again
for them to deny it if they are Not interested?

[TED]

Would one of the MODS please explain where suits last post went.

[Jamie Gray]

Am I the only one who thinks theres still a reasonable chance we start the season still under Lerners ownership ?

I'm the same as you. I was only born in '92 but for as long as I can really remember, we've always been the punchline to a horribly unfunny joke. We had a nice break finishing 6th with O'Neill but even in 09 we blew the CL after being about 10 points clear. Maybe it's just the horrific crap we've been browbeaten with the last 5 years but I keep fearing the worst rather than hoping for the best these days!

Ah I feel sorry for people your age. I mean, I'm 34, born the month we won the league so was 1 when we won the European Cup, and therefore of course too young to remember that; but at least I got to see the first Graham Taylor team, Big Ron's side and Brian Little's as well. However, for people your age, MON's era is pretty much the pinnacle! How awful.

Hopefully that will change in the coming years for you dude!  :)

I was born in 1980 so same era as you. We didn't have it as good as some but certainly way better than those after us!!!! We've witnessed some great players, teams & seasons. Always saddens me to see younger fans select the likes of Gabby & Petrov in their 'favourite Villa teams'. Gabby can barely stay on his feet, let alone kick a ball. No other club would keep giving him the contracts we do for how often to plays well

[GadgetMan]

Would one of the MODS please explain where suits last post went.

No idea? Ask suits he probably deleted it? I didn't see a post. Wasn't removed by the mods!

[clarryblue]

I saw the Suits post too...it was definately there

[GadgetMan]

Anyone know who Bought Randy's house near Bodymoor? Maybe a clue is in that?

Anyone Else surprised none of The media outlets have linked us to dalian wanda group? They
denied it Last time when they in the papers with Southampton so why haven't We been linked again
for them to deny it if they are Not interested?

Eh? You want them to deny something they've not been linked too? I'm lost Haha (easily done) :shock:

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