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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:52 pm

jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ? - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ? {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}
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smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate
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jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg
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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:25 pm

jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate


Has it ? - I would put there success down to having the wealth of a country behind them - rather than the buying of smaller clubs.
Im keen for XIA to succeed here - but I think we should concentrate on the job in hand, and forget comparisons with Man City - that takeover was very much a 'one off'. We have a new owner with lots of enthusiasm and grand visions for the future - but the best thing he can do right now is fund our promotion bid .


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jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors' - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......
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Post by Villa_Dan Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:33 pm

Man City have obviously expanded their supporter base with their proxies in New York and Melbourne, but neither of those teams fund or support City's success. That has been borne out of spending vast sums of money.

Longterm? Maybe it'll be something which sets them apart from the other big boys but it isn't the source of their success so far.

What it could (and I stress could) do would be allow City to circumvent both FFP rules and UEFA/FIFA rules on transfers of youngsters (something Barca have fallen foul on)
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:54 pm

smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?
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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:18 pm

jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?

On what ? if we sign a deal with chinese investors worth £265m ?
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:20 pm

smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?

On what ? if we sign a deal with chinese investors worth £265m ?

If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that
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linked with Pantillomon, Zac Clough and possibly giving Petrov a chance....clearly we are the new man city!

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ThePurist wrote:linked with Pantillomon, Zac Clough and possibly giving Petrov a chance....clearly we are the new man city!

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were in the focking championship, you think big players are going to come to the championship? have a day off
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ThePurist wrote:linked with Pantillomon, Zac Clough and possibly giving Petrov a chance....clearly we are the new man city!

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were in the focking championship, you think big players are going to come to the championship? have a day off

'Big' players maybe not, was hoping  'good' players maybe though!

But if you thought Pantillamon looked good against us (or anyone else for that matter) last season then fair play. I'd rather keep Guzan or Steer...Pantillamon is terrible. Lets hope its just paper talk.

Clough no better than what we already have at the club.

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Post by Villa_Dan Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:33 pm

I think we have to be pragmatic about who we can target for signings considering our position - Man City finished mid table and still had to spunk £16m on the likes of Kolo Toure...
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Villa_Dan wrote:I think we have to be pragmatic about who we can target for signings considering our position - Man City finished mid table and still had to spunk £16m on the likes of Kolo Toure...

I agree...but Pantillamon?..... FFS!!!
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ThePurist wrote:
jimbop wrote:
ThePurist wrote:linked with Pantillomon, Zac Clough and possibly giving Petrov a chance....clearly we are the new man city!

Rolling Eyes

were in the focking championship, you think big players are going to come to the championship? have a day off

'Big' players maybe not, was hoping  'good' players maybe though!

But if you thought Pantillamon looked good against us (or anyone else for that matter) last season then fair play. I'd rather keep Guzan or Steer...Pantillamon is terrible. Lets hope its just paper talk.

Clough no better than what we already have at the club.

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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:43 pm

jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?

On what ? if we sign a deal with chinese investors worth £265m ?

If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that

I always up for a bet - but Im not sure of the parameters here...

I don't believe we will sign a £265m deal with Chinese investors - in say (for example) the next 3 years - I take it you do ?


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smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote:
jimbop wrote:
smetro wrote:
jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?

On what ? if we sign a deal with chinese investors worth £265m ?

If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that

I always up for a bet - but Im not sure of the parameters here...

I don't believe we will sign a £265m deal with Chinese investors  - in say (for example) the next 3 years - I take it you do ?



the bet is this takeover is man city style, why the hell would he be talking champions league and being top 3 in the world? he will look a complete joke to the world and more so a joke to China which will not go down well and will tarnish him for any future projects
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Post by Villa_Dan Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:59 pm

ThePurist wrote:
Villa_Dan wrote:I think we have to be pragmatic about who we can target for signings considering our position - Man City finished mid table and still had to spunk £16m on the likes of Kolo Toure...

I agree...but Pantillamon?..... FFS!!!

I agree he isn't a marque signing but he's not done BADLY whenever used in the premier league, cups, or European games. Won a couple of man of the match awards. At a lower standard of football he is a big, physical guy who comes off his line bravely. Could look vastly better at this level and, if he takes the wages on offer, might not cost a fortune.

Worst case scenario he would be real competition to Guzan
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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:05 pm

Where does this comparision with Man City come from ? - Even Xia himself has said we won't be spending on that scale (true to his word so far !!!) I can't believe people think such a takeover would slip under the radar....

That said Xia has loads of enthusiasm and appears to have a good man in Keith Wyness - and to be honest our first hurdle is to start winning at home on a regular basis - which should be do able.

But if youre thinking we are the next Man City you're going to be dissapointed.....
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smetro wrote:Where does this comparision with Man City come from ? - Even Xia himself has said we won't be spending on that scale (true to his word so far !!!) I can't believe people think such a takeover would slip under the radar....

That said Xia has loads of enthusiasm and appears to have a good man in Keith Wyness - and to be honest our first hurdle is to start winning at home on a regular basis - which should be do able.

But if youre thinking we are the next Man City you're going to be dissapointed.....

careful....
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Villa_Dan wrote:I think we have to be pragmatic about who we can target for signings considering our position - Man City finished mid table and still had to spunk £16m on the likes of Kolo Toure...

I agree...but Pantillamon?..... FFS!!!

I agree he isn't a marque signing but he's not done BADLY whenever used in the premier league, cups, or European games. Won a couple of man of the match awards. At a lower standard of football he is a big, physical guy who comes off his line bravely. Could look vastly better at this level and, if he takes the wages on offer, might not cost a fortune.

Worst case scenario he would be real competition to Guzan

theres no point explaining mate as some people will pick the negatives out of a treble winning season. People slagg the club when we buy unknowns/lack of experience, then they slagg the club when we buy experience, they will NEVER be pleased no matter what. I can hear the fingers tapping on the keyboard, putting into google "pantillimons goalkeeping errors"
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Post by smetro Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:12 pm

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jimbop wrote: Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana  Dancing Banana and people are/were/still thinking DR T is small time pmsl http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/explained-aston-villas-global-expansion-11496951


I don't understand how this will work. Presumably these other clubs will be a lot smaller than villa - How is this going to generate revenue for us ? - Im not knocking it - but if recon sports buy a number of smaller concerns - how does that help us ?  - Transfer it to a UK club for example lets say he brought Kiddy Harriers - and Telford united - I don't see how that equtes to millions for Aston Villa ?   {perhaps thats why I m not a rich bloke !!!!!}

its worked for man city mate

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixn7qO2bbNAhWKK8AKHUyZDc8QFggvMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Ffootball%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fdec%2F01%2Fmanchester-city-owners-china-venture-power&usg=AFQjCNGkNjeOoMFIsyf5fOE4MBDMa_pDwQ&sig2=N8FY1NjPIHeT5x85ApnEqA&bvm=bv.124817099,d.ZGg


Just quoting from that article "Manchester City owners announce £265m deal with Chinese investors'  - If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that ......

fancy a friendly wager on that?

On what ? if we sign a deal with chinese investors worth £265m ?

If we do something of that magnitude then great. But I think we are some way off that

I always up for a bet - but Im not sure of the parameters here...

I don't believe we will sign a £265m deal with Chinese investors  - in say (for example) the next 3 years - I take it you do ?



the bet is this takeover is man city style, why the hell would he be talking champions league and being top 3 in the world? he will look a complete joke to the world and more so a joke to China which will not go down well and will tarnish him for any future projects

Youre clearly on a different level to me. Tony Xia won't look a complete joke to the football world should we not be be champions of europe in the next 10 years.

If he fails - he walks away - he won't be persecuted by the Chinese government - and shunned from any future business deals.

I really think you're reading way to much into this takeover. Most owners make grand statements when they takeover a club.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:22 pm

Villa_Dan wrote:
ThePurist wrote:
Villa_Dan wrote:I think we have to be pragmatic about who we can target for signings considering our position - Man City finished mid table and still had to spunk £16m on the likes of Kolo Toure...

I agree...but Pantillamon?..... FFS!!!

I agree he isn't a marque signing but he's not done BADLY whenever used in the premier league, cups, or European games. Won a couple of man of the match awards. At a lower standard of football he is a big, physical guy who comes off his line bravely. Could look vastly better at this level and, if he takes the wages on offer, might not cost a fortune.

Worst case scenario he would be real competition to Guzan

I'm only judging him in the games I have seen him play, and I just thought he was bloody awful. Happy to be proved wrong.

It seems you can't even voice an opinion about a player on here now without upsetting someone.
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