AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here
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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here
My thoughts on this takeover have changed dramatically today. Having thought on it, whereas previously I Ike's the idea of someone like an Ellison owning the club, I think now that I'd rather have us owned by a company (say, for example. oracle).
An owner, like Lerner, might get bored, might get frustrated, etc. whereas a company has its name attached to the club and any systemic failure would not auger well as an advertising vehicle. Like any advertising project, it has to be ongoing, successful, fresh, inventive. Otherwise it's just a stale product.
Look at Arsenal and Man City as an example. They are a direct advertising platform for Emirates and Etihad respectively. Those clubs can't be left to rot on the vine like Lerner left us otherwise they lose on TWO fronts, not just the one.
Similarly with some form of consortium, if it's a direct means of promoting a company or companies, then the club will have to have a reasonable level of success in order for that brand to be considered to have a successful marketing campaign.
Having said all that....Mike Ashley :)
On another note, just for shits and giggles, shall I start a poll with a takeover date (week 1, week 2, week 3, never happening, etc)?
An owner, like Lerner, might get bored, might get frustrated, etc. whereas a company has its name attached to the club and any systemic failure would not auger well as an advertising vehicle. Like any advertising project, it has to be ongoing, successful, fresh, inventive. Otherwise it's just a stale product.
Look at Arsenal and Man City as an example. They are a direct advertising platform for Emirates and Etihad respectively. Those clubs can't be left to rot on the vine like Lerner left us otherwise they lose on TWO fronts, not just the one.
Similarly with some form of consortium, if it's a direct means of promoting a company or companies, then the club will have to have a reasonable level of success in order for that brand to be considered to have a successful marketing campaign.
Having said all that....Mike Ashley :)
On another note, just for shits and giggles, shall I start a poll with a takeover date (week 1, week 2, week 3, never happening, etc)?
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Please God do not make me go through another day of waiting in hope of news and following stupid links and refreshing pages and checking newsnow and most of all pop up adds, I hate pop up adds, they are the guzan of the internet.
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Trotters wrote:My thoughts on this takeover have changed dramatically today. Having thought on it, whereas previously I Ike's the idea of someone like an Ellison owning the club, I think now that I'd rather have us owned by a company (say, for example. oracle).
An owner, like Lerner, might get bored, might get frustrated, etc. whereas a company has its name attached to the club and any systemic failure would not auger well as an advertising vehicle. Like any advertising project, it has to be ongoing, successful, fresh, inventive. Otherwise it's just a stale product.
Look at Arsenal and Man City as an example. They are a direct advertising platform for Emirates and Etihad respectively. Those clubs can't be left to rot on the vine like Lerner left us otherwise they lose on TWO fronts, not just the one.
Similarly with some form of consortium, if it's a direct means of promoting a company or companies, then the club will have to have a reasonable level of success in order for that brand to be considered to have a successful marketing campaign.
Having said all that....Mike Ashley :)
On another note, just for shits and giggles, shall I start a poll with a takeover date (week 1, week 2, week 3, never happening, etc)?
I just want a mega billionaire and I dreamt last night that we did get Ellison and his 1st order of business was to donate one of his remote islands to the club, which would be used like a penal colony, on the 1st boat out would be bacuna, richards, lescott, reilly and his bitch, richardson, GUZAN and flabby(cancel boat, we'll need a ship).
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There are obviously talks but as for the identities of the buyer? No one who knows is talking.
So what happens? Wild speculation and pipe dreams. Larry Ellison
Dalian Wanda Group .
Ridiculous!!!!!!
Trouble with company ownership is Trotters is they tend to have share holders etc to answer to? Anyway we are already owned by a company now?? Reform Acquisitions???
So what happens? Wild speculation and pipe dreams. Larry Ellison
Dalian Wanda Group .
Ridiculous!!!!!!
Trouble with company ownership is Trotters is they tend to have share holders etc to answer to? Anyway we are already owned by a company now?? Reform Acquisitions???
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Joppe84 wrote:The could be a consortium from the moons of Saturn for all I care as long as they have enough money
I didn't know my local Chinesse restaurant were one of the interested parties in buying the Villa ? forget your pie and pint next season it'll be spring roll and rice wine. lol
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Yeeeeeeehaaaaaa Takeover on the way great news finally no more Yankee Crank fuckin our club up and destroying all our hopes and dreams and maybe now we can all start hoping and dreaming of seeing Villa winning again, i love you chicken chowmain
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HarryAVFC wrote:Pearson did do a good job at rebuilding LCFC in league 1 and the champ. He also played a good old fashioned 442 in the champ with wingers and two mobile strikers. I like that, you hardly see it anymore
What worries me is why LCFC become prem winners the season he left. I think he's the type of manager who can only take a team so far.
You do know why he left Leicester right?
Every manager on the planet can only take a team 'so far'....depends on the team/manager as to how far that is!
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The Birmingham Mail are saying that the Telegraph are saying that one of the groups in for us have been granted exclusivity. But I can't see anything about it on the Telegraph website.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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deadbuzzardalive wrote:The Birmingham Mail are saying that the Telegraph are saying that one of the groups in for us have been granted exclusivity. But I can't see anything about it on the Telegraph website.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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I wish Ellison would buy the Birmingham mail too ffs
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jimbop wrote:deadbuzzardalive wrote:The Birmingham Mail are saying that the Telegraph are saying that one of the groups in for us have been granted exclusivity. But I can't see anything about it on the Telegraph website.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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Updated 18:39, 8 Jun 2015
Ah thanks, I was going to say it felt a bit Déjà vu. Came up on twitter.
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deadbuzzardalive wrote:jimbop wrote:deadbuzzardalive wrote:The Birmingham Mail are saying that the Telegraph are saying that one of the groups in for us have been granted exclusivity. But I can't see anything about it on the Telegraph website.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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Updated 18:39, 8 Jun 2015
Ah thanks, I was going to say it felt a bit Déjà vu. Came up on twitter.
I also do it matey, we all living in hope that's what it is!
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jimbop wrote:deadbuzzardalive wrote:jimbop wrote:deadbuzzardalive wrote:The Birmingham Mail are saying that the Telegraph are saying that one of the groups in for us have been granted exclusivity. But I can't see anything about it on the Telegraph website.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gossip-aston-villa-could-reportedly-9414421#ICID=sharebar_twitter
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Updated 18:39, 8 Jun 2015
Ah thanks, I was going to say it felt a bit Déjà vu. Came up on twitter.
I also do it matey, we all living in hope that's what it is!
always do it.
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This talk of Damien Comolli stinks of the press having nothing new to rehash from the forums/social media so they're making up some other shit to run with for a while.
And this is SO typical of the reporting I mentioned in the "journalism" thread. Steve Wolloston has stated that the Chinese consortium (fuck me, isn't that the word of the month) is thought to want Comolli. Whose thought is that exactly? An insider at Wang? An investigative jounalist from FinanceAsia? One of Comolli's colleagues perhaps?
No. The Daily fucking Mail.
And I can only picture the editor of the Birmingham Mail walking past Wolloston's cubicle saying "Great report, that!" instead of calling him into his office and yelling "WHAT IN THE NAME OF FUCK KIND OF COPY AND PASTE BULLSHIT IS THIS? HAND IN YOUR FOB KEY NOW AND GTFO".
And this is SO typical of the reporting I mentioned in the "journalism" thread. Steve Wolloston has stated that the Chinese consortium (fuck me, isn't that the word of the month) is thought to want Comolli. Whose thought is that exactly? An insider at Wang? An investigative jounalist from FinanceAsia? One of Comolli's colleagues perhaps?
No. The Daily fucking Mail.
And I can only picture the editor of the Birmingham Mail walking past Wolloston's cubicle saying "Great report, that!" instead of calling him into his office and yelling "WHAT IN THE NAME OF FUCK KIND OF COPY AND PASTE BULLSHIT IS THIS? HAND IN YOUR FOB KEY NOW AND GTFO".
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I think it was Percy of the Telegraph who first reported the Comolli link. He seems to have a reputation of being quite reliable, but he does get things wrong sometimes.
The Comolli link could have just been thrown out there to distract people from what's really going on. Seems a pretty random link, if there's any truth to it, he might just be advising them during the sales process.
The Comolli link could have just been thrown out there to distract people from what's really going on. Seems a pretty random link, if there's any truth to it, he might just be advising them during the sales process.
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If it's the Chinese and Comoli comes, I can't see many managers who'd work with him
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Randy has made it clear that he'll only sell to someone who appears to have the best interests of the club at heart so I'm sure that potential bidders are expected to show a game plan for the club including appointments for vacant positions (which is why I think that the Pearson talks reflect advanced takeover negotiations). I'd suggest that they may even be expected to sound out their targets to check for availability too which could be how The Telegraph got wind of the Camolli link.
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Someone please give me low down on this bloke? I know he ran the show at Liverpool but, as I don't care a toss about Liverpool, I know little to nothing about him.
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No idea if Comolli would be good, bad or indifferent. He was turfed out at Spurs and Liverpool but I guess it's down to opinion regarding his record of success.
However, one guy I would love to see come in to run the club on behalf of a consortium would 100% be Nicola Cortese.
That would be ideal in my view!
However, one guy I would love to see come in to run the club on behalf of a consortium would 100% be Nicola Cortese.
That would be ideal in my view!
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Comolli's track record includes signing or being heavily involved in signing:
Suarez
Carroll
Modric
Clichy
Eboue
Bale
Boateng (KP not Jerome, but still not bad)
Pavyluchenko
Berbatov
Assou-Ekoto
Henderson
Enrique
Not a bad list that. He was hung out to dry by Spurs and Pool IMO
Suarez
Carroll
Modric
Clichy
Eboue
Bale
Boateng (KP not Jerome, but still not bad)
Pavyluchenko
Berbatov
Assou-Ekoto
Henderson
Enrique
Not a bad list that. He was hung out to dry by Spurs and Pool IMO
Last edited by Villa_Dan on Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:15 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Listed Modric twice. Although he is more than twice the player any of our midfielders are)
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Start a rumour that the media will pick up on and suggest to the new owners.
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Villa_Dan wrote:Comolli's track record includes signing or being heavily involved in signing:
Suarez
Carroll
Modric
Clichy
Eboue
Bale
Boateng (KP not Jerome, but still not bad)
Modric
Pavyluchenko
Berbatov
Assou-Ekoto
Henderson
Enrique
Not a bad list that. He was hung out to dry by Spurs and Pool IMO
That's not a bad list at all. But that's obviously the GOOD list. Who's on the BAD one?
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Whilst you're off trawling wiki for that info, Dan :) can I just wish a warm welcome to our newly registered members! And welcome back to some of our older ones, too.
Delighted to have you here. Feel free to jump in and say hello.
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Trotters wrote:Villa_Dan wrote:Comolli's track record includes signing or being heavily involved in signing:
Suarez
Carroll
Modric
Clichy
Eboue
Bale
Boateng (KP not Jerome, but still not bad)
Modric
Pavyluchenko
Berbatov
Assou-Ekoto
Henderson
Enrique
Not a bad list that. He was hung out to dry by Spurs and Pool IMO
That's not a bad list at all. But that's obviously the GOOD list. Who's on the BAD one?
Hutton
Coates
Charlie Adam (although I'd have had his at the Villa!)
Chimbonda
Taarabt? (debatable as he's talented but a knob)
Downing
Here's a table I found of his signings. The block who made it reckons at Spurs he had a 25% failure rate, 40% out right success and the rest falling somewhere between or undecided
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