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Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:20 am

I run my share of EDD's and they are quite time consuming. I suspect financial ones are even more so.

However the lack of hard cash involved in any transfers we have done, makes me believe this takeover rumour is true.

I was depressed when we were linked to Huddlestone, but seing as we haven't bought any spurs rejects yet, or any other players for that matter (with the exception of a freebie), I'm feeling more positive.

And while I'm a novice at financial DD's, is it possible that they approve the books and state of our finances and enter an exclusivity agreement. I hope you can follow me on this, but if they approve our books and salary balance when we had Darren Bent. Would we only be allowed to sign players that didn't exceed his wages? Obviously we couldn't actually spend hard cash as that would affect the finances agreed upon, but a freebie that was signed on less wages than the man we released, i.e. Micah Richards?

I might be all wrong, but I wouldn't be amazed if something along these lines were the agreement.
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Post by Trotters Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:11 am

That sounds sensible. The club haven't increased outgoings (seems the opposite, in fact) nor spent money on players....yet.

However, we've had numerous reports of players visiting BMH that certainly WOULD cost money. Have these players agreed to come to the club much like MoN did prior to Lerner officially buying the club? Or have the seen the holding pattern the club is in and moved on?

That's an equally viable option until you consider Micah Richards; no way should a player of his ability be signing for what is (currently) nailed-on relegation-fodder.

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Post by omariqy Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:21 am

I don't think we will get sold this summer.
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Post by ViewFromT2 Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:32 am

omariqy wrote:I don't think we will get sold this summer.

OMG...the hornets nest has been stirred now.....take cover!!!

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Post by TheTechniqueSMC Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:46 am

omariqy wrote:I don't think we will get sold this summer.

The same thing is said every single summer since 2011, Things have to change and judging by the exclusivity and the way things have been handled IF its ever going to happen its this summer.
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Post by Mr_Spadge Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:23 am

Trotters wrote:What would be involved in Due Diligence of a (sadly run-of-the-mill) football club? I can't imagine there are issues of intellectual property or complex asset ownership.

I would expect that in a deal of this size, Due Dilligence would need to go both ways, ie ensuring that the buyer has the funds in place, is not a front for money laundering, etc etc. It could mean one of three things:

1 - the buyer is so small scale and has scraped together a meagre asset base that the DD is proving difficult, or Randy's not happy with how they've got the money together
2 - the buyer is from somewhere so complex (eg China) that it's taking a long time to assess the sources of funding, and security of the deal. (eg translations etc)
3 - None of the above, as we all continue to know nothing. Aaaargh AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857 AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857 AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857

I feel like it's probably number 3, but just reminding ppl DD will often be a 2 way process.
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Post by Trotters Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:37 am

omariqy wrote:I don't think we will get sold this summer.

That sounds unsensible.
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Post by Trotters Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:43 am

Mr_Spadge wrote:
Trotters wrote:What would be involved in Due Diligence of a (sadly run-of-the-mill) football club? I can't imagine there are issues of intellectual property or complex asset ownership.

I would expect that in a deal of this size, Due Dilligence would need to go both ways, ie ensuring that the buyer has the funds in place, is not a front for money laundering, etc etc.  It could mean one of three things:

1 - the buyer is so small scale and has scraped together a meagre asset base that the DD is proving difficult, or Randy's not happy with how they've got the money together

2 - the buyer is from somewhere so complex (eg China) that it's taking a long time to assess the sources of funding, and security of the deal.  (eg translations etc)

3 - None of the above, as we all continue to know nothing.  Aaaargh  AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857  AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857  AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here - Page 2 1420239857

I feel like it's probably number 3, but just reminding ppl DD will often be a 2 way process.

Good call.

Point 1 (and the comment above it) The FA look after this sort of thing with their Fit & Proper test ensuring that only the most competent people with no seedy background or shifty acquaintances become involved in top flight English football. We're all safe there.
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Point 2. I suppose having a permission slip from President Jinping only goes so far and is no guarantee of ongoing spending. At least, if they're a small time operator. I don't think that'd be the case for someone like Dalian Atkinson Wanda. Then again, what I know about Chinese foreign investment policy together with 40 cents will get you a phone call.

Point 3. It'll all come out in the wash. Maybe. Wink
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Post by Jamie Gray Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:40 pm

There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.
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Post by danclare82 Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:42 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.
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Post by Jamie Gray Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:49 pm

danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....
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Post by banneruk Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:50 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which Twitter account is this Jamie?
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Post by GadgetMan Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:55 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!
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Post by Jamie Gray Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:59 pm

banneruk wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which Twitter account is this Jamie?

@EDS_Amy she gets accused of only stating things already out there & discredited for being a model, but if you look at her profile, google her & her company then she's fully legit, no one goes through that much effort for a false ITK account! She broadcasts her name & face, so she's not hiding anonymously. She's also a TV presenter so she'd be jeopardising her career if she was making stuff up. She's honest & says she passes on what agents tell her. Some of the stuff is already rumoured but if she wants to maintain credibility I'd guess she doesn't report anything until it's been confirmed as accurate. I can understand cynicism but id be amazed if she wasn't legit. Have a look for yourselves, make your own mind up. She's also reporting Benteke might be staying now, which I heard & posted here last week, and Delph is staying too.
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Post by Jamie Gray Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:01 pm

GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!

By the very nature of football transfers, things can change & fall through at any point. This seems to be a stick to beat people with genuine information in the world of social media - 'it didn't happen, you're full of crap'
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Post by GadgetMan Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:04 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!

By the very nature of football transfers, things can change & fall through at any point. This seems to be a stick to beat people with genuine information in the world of social media - 'it didn't happen, you're full of crap'

Sadly yes. I've kept an eye on her account and the stick she's been getting, social media is getting out of control with zero accountability for words and actions that many wouldn't dare say to someone's face. One of the reasons I'm not posting at the moment. Seems even worse when there's no football to distract people.
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Post by kimbo Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:05 pm

GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!

By the very nature of football transfers, things can change & fall through at any point. This seems to be a stick to beat people with genuine information in the world of social media - 'it didn't happen, you're full of crap'

Sadly yes. I've kept an eye on her account and the stick she's been getting, social media is getting out of control with zero accountability for words and actions that many wouldn't dare say to someone's face. One of the reasons I'm not posting at the moment. Seems even worse when there's no football to distract people.
I find that so irritating, and it's why even I was working with Tom Fox and Tim Sherwood on a daily basis, and had their blessing to post info on Twitter, I still wouldn't bother because of the needless abuse!
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Post by clarryblue Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:09 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:
banneruk wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which Twitter account is this Jamie?

@EDS_Amy she gets accused of only stating things already out there & discredited for being a model, but if you look at her profile, google her & her company then she's fully legit, no one goes through that much effort for a false ITK account! She broadcasts her name & face, so she's not hiding anonymously. She's also a TV presenter so she'd be jeopardising her career if she was making stuff up. She's honest & says she passes on what agents tell her. Some of the stuff is already rumoured but if she wants to maintain credibility I'd guess she doesn't report anything until it's been confirmed as accurate. I can understand cynicism but id be amazed if she wasn't legit. Have a look for yourselves, make your own mind up. She's also reporting Benteke might be staying now, which I heard & posted here last week, and Delph is staying too.

she also says we are already 4 weeks into the 6 week period
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Post by Trotters Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:18 pm

2 weeks is the 6th. I'm,still going with the 8th even though American buyers won't have the fuck-about-with-price-at-the-last-minute Chinese factor.
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:21 pm

clarryblue wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
banneruk wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which Twitter account is this Jamie?

@EDS_Amy she gets accused of only stating things already out there & discredited for being a model, but if you look at her profile, google her & her company then she's fully legit, no one goes through that much effort for a false ITK account! She broadcasts her name & face, so she's not hiding anonymously. She's also a TV presenter so she'd be jeopardising her career if she was making stuff up. She's honest & says she passes on what agents tell her. Some of the stuff is already rumoured but if she wants to maintain credibility I'd guess she doesn't report anything until it's been confirmed as accurate. I can understand cynicism but id be amazed if she wasn't legit. Have a look for yourselves, make your own mind up. She's also reporting Benteke might be staying now, which I heard & posted here last week, and Delph is staying too.

she also says we are already 4 weeks into the 6 week period

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Post by Jamie Gray Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:26 pm

kimbo wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!

By the very nature of football transfers, things can change & fall through at any point. This seems to be a stick to beat people with genuine information in the world of social media - 'it didn't happen, you're full of crap'

Sadly yes. I've kept an eye on her account and the stick she's been getting, social media is getting out of control with zero accountability for words and actions that many wouldn't dare say to someone's face. One of the reasons I'm not posting at the moment. Seems even worse when there's no football to distract people.
I find that so irritating, and it's why even I was working with Tom Fox and Tim Sherwood on a daily basis, and had their blessing to post info on Twitter, I still wouldn't bother because of the needless abuse!

You wouldn't believe how many messages I get asking for information about every little thing to do with football. Serves me right I suppose, I could avoid promoting in any way shape or form who my Dad is. God, I'm such an ego maniac attention whore....
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Post by ember Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:29 pm

banneruk wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which Twitter account is this Jamie?

If it's Julieb then it deserves all the stick it gets. She knows absolutely nothing.
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Post by Malandro Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:34 pm

Jamie Gray wrote:
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GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:
danclare82 wrote:
Jamie Gray wrote:There's a Twitter account who gets a bit of stick as an ITK wannabe, but I happen to think is 100% genuine, who's saying she has it on good authority that the take over is American. Make of that what you will.

Which would match what chrissylee's friend was saying a few weeks back and was going to be very wealthy.

Doesn't it just.....

I know of this account, a rather attractive ITK (most are spotty 14 year olds haha *this may be a stereotype*) She seems legit to me, as with a lot of info, so many people just waiting to knock and dig at anything. My view is unless you're blatantly full of it (Incog being a prime example) you should be afforded a little grace to get the odd thing or two wrong....Let's hope she's right with this one. I'm also convinced it's American!!

By the very nature of football transfers, things can change & fall through at any point. This seems to be a stick to beat people with genuine information in the world of social media - 'it didn't happen, you're full of crap'

Sadly yes. I've kept an eye on her account and the stick she's been getting, social media is getting out of control with zero accountability for words and actions that many wouldn't dare say to someone's face. One of the reasons I'm not posting at the moment. Seems even worse when there's no football to distract people.
I find that so irritating, and it's why even I was working with Tom Fox and Tim Sherwood on a daily basis, and had their blessing to post info on Twitter, I still wouldn't bother because of the needless abuse!

You wouldn't believe how many messages I get asking for information about every little thing to do with football. Serves me right I suppose, I could avoid promoting in any way shape or form who my Dad is. God, I'm such an ego maniac attention whore....

Is that Richard Keys' daughter?
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Post by clarryblue Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:34 pm

very wealthy americans apparently...although just how wealthy is unclear...

any updates chrissylee?

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Post by Trotters Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:38 pm

Americans, plural. A consortium.

That being said, we've had an admittance from a source at ML who has said that both Merryl Lynch and the club have been actively leaking bullshit to keep eyes away from the prize. So who knows if this bird has been fed a load of bollocks as well??
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