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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by villajk on Sun May 22, 2016 5:14 pm

Got to agree BTK if he get Moyes will show a lot more than ambition good times ahead imo

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Post by Barabass on Sun May 22, 2016 8:23 pm

Hello Everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster.

I'd just like to say that this new takeover is looking positive. The hopefully new owner seems to be doing what he can to settle our nerves and he states he has grand plans for Villa. My only concern is that the FA will not be happy with Xia's methods to incorporate Villa into his Lotus Health business as that could potentially mean we can get around the FFP rules. If we are part of Lotus Health then maybe our transfer funds will be determined by Lotus's turnover, rather than just Villa's. I can see the FA trying to say Xia isn't a 'fit' owner if he is to merge us into Lotus Health.

Surely this will be sorted soon as I doubt the announcement of a takeover would have been done without the fit and proper tests being well under way as we've had enough embarrassment to deal with lately.

Onwards and upwards,

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Post by 4BetLite on Sun May 22, 2016 8:31 pm

@Barabass wrote:Hello Everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster.

I'd just like to say that this new takeover is looking positive. The hopefully new owner seems to be doing what he can to settle our nerves and he states he has grand plans for Villa. My only concern is that the FA will not be happy with Xia's methods to incorporate Villa into his Lotus Health business as that could potentially mean we can get around the FFP rules. If we are part of Lotus Health then maybe our transfer funds will be determined by Lotus's turnover, rather than just Villa's. I can see the FA trying to say Xia isn't a 'fit' owner if he is to merge us into Lotus Health.

Surely this will be sorted soon as I doubt the announcement of a takeover would have been done without the fit and proper tests being well under way as we've had enough embarrassment to deal with lately.

Onwards and upwards,

Mike

Welcome Mike

With the likes of Samuelson on board I'm sure that the FA have been taken care of ;-)

I too think we are in for positive times regardless of who the Dr appoints to run the club with him


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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by HarryAVFC on Sun May 22, 2016 8:31 pm

Samuleson- That's worrying
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Post by BillytheKid on Sun May 22, 2016 8:34 pm

Amen to that villa jk mate

Welcome Mike, thats a good point you know you make, was the fit and proper test underway already as you mention or has it only just been started, confusing me a little as Xia himself mentions naming the new manager this week where Hollis mentioned Xia can't name a new manager until the fit and proper tests are complete but i am hearing they can take upto 3 weeks?

Must have already been underway surely as Mike mentions.
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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by Barabass on Sun May 22, 2016 8:47 pm

I assume that Xia said a new manager would be named in under 2 weeks because that is when he will officially be the new owner and can then sign contracts himself. I can't see Hollis making any changes as he will just be keeping things ticking over until he gets his golden handshake from Lerner for selling the Club.
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Post by Saunders82 on Sun May 22, 2016 8:59 pm

@Wookster wrote:So typically British

We've found us a saviour
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Now lets destroy him
Bash Bash

Bang on Wookster, weve had shite for the last 5 years we moan and groan about it and we get a lifeline we start ripping it to shreds.


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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by Andrew Baker on Sun May 22, 2016 9:17 pm

Think barabass is right. Perhaps the fit and proper owner thing will go through and that is when the new manager will be announced?

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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by BillytheKid on Sun May 22, 2016 9:38 pm

@Barabass wrote:I assume that Xia said a new manager would be named in under 2 weeks because that is when he will officially be the new owner and can then sign contracts himself. I can't see Hollis making any changes as he will just be keeping things ticking over until he gets his golden handshake from Lerner for selling the Club.

All i have seen and read Xia saying is a new manager will be announced this week coming so surely that means the fit and proper test by the Premier League is completed this week in order for Xia to be able to appoint his own manager this week, i will have a dig up and re read what Xia said but i am 99% sure he said this week he will announce a new manager.
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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by BillytheKid on Sun May 22, 2016 10:50 pm

I think after having a look about Xia was just meaning whenever the fit and proper tests are completed then officially the manager will be appointed, maybe Moyes will be announced he is to become our new manager this week even if the tests are not completed in time tbh
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Post by smetro on Sun May 22, 2016 11:01 pm

The fit and proper tests don't even start until next month
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Post by BillytheKid on Sun May 22, 2016 11:24 pm

@smetro wrote:The fit and proper tests don't even start until next month

So how can Xia be appointed official owner anytime soon to appoint a manager then? #confused :facepalm:
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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by Chrissylee1111 on Sun May 22, 2016 11:36 pm

It's getting worse guys, the sun are saying that Samuelson will sit on as a director and evidence on Twitter was just shared stating that Xia became a director of recon this month. Many are saying that it was set up for the villa deal. I am starting to think that Samuelson has had something to do with the financing of this deal and the whole thing is getting more and more confusing. Samuelson would not be involved for due diligence as Xia would have his own people.
I think Samuelson is the one that has loaned the money to Xia.
I am absolutely gutted as I feel the wool has been pulled over our eyes. when a gap is filled more seems to open up and with the lack of info from villa, I am starting to think that they know as well.

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Post by gaffer85 on Sun May 22, 2016 11:46 pm

@Chrissylee1111 wrote:It's getting worse guys, the sun are saying that Samuelson will sit on as a director and evidence on Twitter was just shared stating that Xia became a director of recon this month. Many are saying that it was set up for the villa deal. I am starting to think that Samuelson has had something to do with the financing of this deal and the whole thing is getting more and more confusing. Samuelson would not be involved for due diligence as Xia would have his own people.
I think Samuelson is the one that has loaned the money to Xia.
I am absolutely gutted as I feel the wool has been pulled over our eyes. when a gap is filled more seems to open up and with the lack of info from villa, I am starting to think that they know as well.

What evidence Chrissy surely Hollis would be dealing with him over a month now
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Re: AVFC Takeover Thread, Rumours, Gossip and Hearsay...all goes here

Post by BillytheKid on Mon May 23, 2016 12:37 am

I don't like Samuelson near our club either and i have been trying to calm Villans down worried over Xia,

What pops into my head straight away is if you was a super wealthy bloke like Xia why the fuck would you want Samuelson near you or your newly purchased football club with all these allegations and FBI for christ sake in investigating him?

Something is making me feel uneasy because of this i have to be honest, has Lerner dropped us into a world more of shit just to get himself out of the way and get fans back for protesting cos he lost money, wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by BillytheKid on Mon May 23, 2016 12:49 am

Fuckin hell Trotters it looks like Samuelson is actually involved in buying our club not just a job title role, he has been after a club recently and all of a sudden he pops up at our club and to be appointed chief exec, i feel sick
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Post by BillytheKid on Mon May 23, 2016 12:55 am

Why would Xia need Samuelson if he as rich as he claims and has so many companies as he claims? Surely a Billionaire would not need a loan company 'shadow man' known as a money launderer fbi investigated person involved at all?

Something stinks and the words i read from them articles Trotters you put up just is ''silent partner'' LERNER U sugarbag
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Post by Trotters on Mon May 23, 2016 12:56 am

His dealings with Everton seem to be regarding a 29.9% stake in which he claimed the money was registered and in place. Seems it was nothing of the sort and Kenwright got twitchy and pulled the pin.

Samuelson, it would appear, has learnt his lesson and now has the money down.

The FA and PL are well aware of this guy so it'll be an interesting couple of weeks.
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Post by Trotters on Mon May 23, 2016 12:56 am

Oh...welcome Mike!
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Post by Wriggle on Mon May 23, 2016 12:56 am

why is everyone jumping to their own conclusions, mostly negative ones??? I think some people need to step away from the forums for a little while and enjoy the fresh air a little and come back in a month or so when things will have moved on.

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Post by Trotters on Mon May 23, 2016 12:58 am

AV, it's actually difficult to find anything good on this bloke. I'm sure there are money launderers, tax evaders and Russian oligarchs that love him but you try and find a report on him on the internet that puts him in a good light.

And he's front and centre at our club! It could well be that Xia is just a front for some well-dodgy dealings.
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Post by BillytheKid on Mon May 23, 2016 1:05 am

@Trotters wrote:AV, it's actually difficult to find anything good on this bloke. I'm sure there are money launderers, tax evaders and Russian oligarchs that love him but you try and find a report on him on the internet that puts him in a good light.

And he's front and centre at our club! It could well be that Xia is just a front for some well-dodgy dealings.

This is exactly my concerns mate, i have been pro Xia until i found something really to be worried about but Samuelson is not the type of bloke any well respected Billionaire would dare involve himself with, who is behind the funds really no way would the Chinese government use Samuelson to put money out there, nah i am not liking this now and worry we may end up being some anonymous money mans agenda to get what they want any means possible.
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Post by Wriggle on Mon May 23, 2016 1:12 am

I understand that Trotters, but when do the press ever report anything good about someone like this? good news from this type of person isn't worth writing about, but over sensationalizing negative things is.

he was supposedly part of a FBI investigation back in 2000 and nothing came of it, surely that tells you there was nothing to see?

To me it sounds like he more of the deal maker and shows the investors the best way to move their money around to negate tax, something that is done in every business. As long as it's above board then what is wrong with that, and if it wasn't above board i'm sure he would have faced charges now as he's been doing it since early 2000 and been investigated by the FBI.

We've even got people suggesting he loaned the money to Tony to buy the club ffs, what a joke that is.

The guys been in the door a few days and everyone is jumping to their own conclusions because little is known Tony and personally i like that.

Time to sit back, enjoy the Euros and in a month or so's time we'll start to find out the real intent. one which i'm still pretty confident will be a very good one.

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Post by HarryAVFC on Mon May 23, 2016 1:15 am

Maybe we do generally just have a good guy, with a lot of money who fancied buying us?

I can see why people are scared but we have to trust him

He's said good things, and if we appoint Moyes I'm pretty sure we can all sleep well
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Post by HarryAVFC on Mon May 23, 2016 1:17 am

Samuelson is a wired though
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