Re: Aston Villa v The Sturkeys- Post match Thread

[Guest]

I just had a look at Koeman's record on Wiki. I'm not convinced he's all that to be honest.

I am convinced Lambert isn't.

Clearly not, but why swap one who isn't all that for another of the same standard?

I noticed that Koeman has managed alot in the Netherlands and Portugal. It seems he managed to drag Benfica to a 3rd place finish (I always thought that was a two club league, like Scotland once was), while at Valencia in Spain he managed them to fifteenth, a worse place than Lambert's go Villa to presently, before getting the sack.

Just because we're off the back of an utterly shit result, and Koeman supposedly wants to come, it doesn't make him the right option in my eyes.

[Guest]

I just had a look at Koeman's record on Wiki. I'm not convinced he's all that to be honest.

I am convinced Lambert isn't.

Clearly not, but why swap one who isn't all that for another of the same standard?

I noticed that Koeman has managed alot in the Netherlands and Portugal. It seems he managed to drag Benfica to a 3rd place finish (I always thought that was a two club league, like Scotland once was), while at Valencia in Spain he managed them to fifteenth, a worse place than Lambert's go Villa to presently, before getting the sack.

Just because we're off the back of an utterly shit result, and Koeman supposedly wants to come, it doesn't make him the right option in my eyes.

We definitely need better, but who?

[Guest]

The job he's done at feyenoord has been impressive - won a trophy at Valencia .

Won 3 league titles across Europe too - I'd take him ahead of lambert anyday - we will not attract top top managers at present.

[Guest]

In truth, and realistically, I've no idea.

[Guest]

I think most of us thought Lambert was the man, me included. It's just not working out.

[Guest]

I think most of us thought Lambert was the man, me included.  It's just not working out.

Five wins at home, on balance, says you're right.

Would Koeman but an improvement? I'm not convinced. His cup win at Valencia was the Copa del Ray, which I understand is held in low estime out in Spain.

I don't know the solution, but more worryingly, I don't think Lerner knows the solution.

[Guest]

I think most of us thought Lambert was the man, me included.  It's just not working out.

Five wins at home, on balance, says you're right.

Would Koeman but an improvement? I'm not convinced. His cup win at Valencia was the Copa del Ray, which I understand is held in low estime out in Spain.

I don't know the solution, but more worryingly, I don't think Lerner knows the solution.

I don't think Learner thinks there is a problem.

[Guest]

Just got home from cricket.
To say i am a bit pissed off really is not enough.
I will not say much more tonight, few beers etc.
Not a good start to be honest.
Beaten by a better team on the day and our defense was shocking, infact, bloody awfull.

Good night.
UTV.

[Guest]

Just got home from cricket.
To say i am a bit pissed off really is not enough.
I will not say much more tonight, few beers etc.
Not a good start to be honest.
Beaten by a better team on the day and our defense was shocking, infact, bloody awfull.

Good night.
UTV.

I am trying to find a crumb of optimism but can't think of much.

[Guest]

[quote="Holtender1982"]

Just got home from cricket.
To say i am a bit pissed off really is not enough.
I will not say much more tonight, few beers etc.
Not a good start to be honest.
Beaten by a better team on the day and our defense was shocking, infact, bloody awfull.

Good night.
UTV.

I am trying to find a crumb of optimism but can't think of much. [/qu
There are no crumbs, just broken biscuits mate.

[col8]

I wanted Slaven Bilic as manager when Monny O'Neill went, I bet he would be available for the right price.

[Guest]

I am only logging in now. That for me is the most disappointing result of a disappointing season.

Utter garbage. What the hell is wrong with us? Fucking depressing.

[Guest]

The problem is bigger than the dugout. The problem for the past four years has been that Aston Villa in its current form, i.e how it is being administered, just does not work.

What are the standards? What are the ambitions?Where is the accountability?

Four seasons ago we were a dynamic outfit climbing back to the top. Now we are making up the numbers and happy with the odd scalp that nobody expects from us. A club like us should aspire to the best, but you can just smell the lethargy around the whole club.

Today was a chance to really go clear but the players didn't look up for it and were out fought and out played on their own turf by mediocre opposition yet again.

[Guest]

The problem is bigger than the dugout. The problem for the past four years has been that Aston Villa in its current form, i.e how it is being administered, just does not work.

Agree. If the manager was the only problem the malaise would be easier to resolve.

[Guest]

I went to the pub in Brussels, we were 1-0 up.

I came back to this. Fuck the entire thing! arrggghhh!!!

[Guest]

The problem is bigger than the dugout. The problem for the past four years has been that Aston Villa in its current form, i.e how it is being administered, just does not work.

Agree. If the manager was the only problem the malaise would be easier to resolve.

Sadly changing owners is more fraught with danger than changing managers would be.

[Guest]

I went to the pub in Brussels, we were 1-0 up.

I came back to this. Fuck the entire thing! arrggghhh!!!

Went there for a couple of days last year, really nice place to visit.

[Trotters]

I think it's a case of the big teams coming out and playing the way they normally do and getting caught out by us (usually on the break). Essentially, their arrogance and underestimation of us was their undoing.

Other teams know they don't have the level of skill to do what teams like Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool do so have to look at how best to nullify us....and that's rather easy!

[Trotters]

The problem is bigger than the dugout. The problem for the past four years has been that Aston Villa in its current form, i.e how it is being administered, just does not work.

Agree. If the manager was the only problem the malaise would be easier to resolve.

Sadly changing owners is more fraught with danger than changing managers would be.

It's not a change of owner that's needed. He spent too much and now he's trying to get some of that back. That would seem reasonable to most.

But football doesn't work like that. If you try and survive like Villa have been then, sooner or later, you're going to take a fall. I think only blind luck has prevented that in the last few years.

What's needed is a footballing brain on the board. Or brains.

That we had those exact people with the backing of a billionaire was the perfect recipe for success. All of our ducks were in a row, the i's were dotted and the t's crossed. But then the ducks fucked off leaving this board completely blind and they been blind ever since.

[Guest]

Spot on in both posts, Troy.

On the first point, we have no answers to teams who don't leave themselves open to the counter. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if we win at Old Trafford next week or lose to Fulham the following week.

[Trotters]

The "New United" is a very different beast to how they were under purple nose.

It's been said in the media that the Man U players aren't happy that they spend so much time on defensive drills and looking how other teams play - that's not the "United" way. Their way is to dictate the terms on the football pitch.

So if Moyes is eschewing that Man Utd way and is more focused on how to nullify our threat, we're fucked cuz it's a no-brainer even for him.

If Mark Hughes and shitty "crap away record" Stoke can give us a hiding, anyone can.

Fulham will also be fighting like hell and will sense blood in the water and will also want to do the double over us.

I've gone from feeling supremely confident in surviving relegation 24 hours ago to, once again, looking at results below us.

[Guest]

I'm sick of being depressed about football - roll on the cricket season !

[Guest]

I'm sick of being depressed about football - roll on the cricket season !

Yea, watching England in the 20 20 will be brilliant :)

[Trotters]

I'd rather eat my own anus than watch cricket.

[Guest]

I'm not a fan of one day cricket , I like the long game .
Anyway what would an Aussie or an Irishman know about cricket   

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