Re: 2016 Summer Transfer Speculation

by 4BetLite Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:48 pm

Justice league wrote:looks like adama has a clause in his contract.

Dr. Tony Xia ✔ @Dr_TonyXia
Exactly what we thought and we'll also get benefits from Adam becoming great in the future as deal settled. https://twitter.com/andy__avfc/status/771019899485450240 …
10:11 PM - 31 Aug 2016
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There was small print in the Guzan contract too, if fit he MUST be played in all matches against Aston Villa for the full 90 minutes including extra time.

by BillytheKid Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:00 pm

The confidence in Dr T gives me the feeling we have ourselves a mega rich dude of an owner, he is no small time thats for sure and thats why these mega plans will happen Dancing Banana

by danclare82 Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:02 pm

CLOSED

by **Trotters** Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:03 pm

We're a long way from being a settled football side and I can see a few bumps in the road ahead - some of the players we've signed rin very hot & cold - but when you compare it to the Lerner regime where you've a shit squad topped up with the amazing signing of Jordan Bowery then you have to admit for a first windows it's not bad. Not bad at all.

And Tony was tweeted that we'll be getting loan in January to cover us for African cup.

All down to RDM now. I've not looked at the fixture list to see who we've got coming up but I'd expect 12 points from our next 7 games regardless of who we play.

by danclare82 Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:09 pm

Forest and Brentford at home nxt I think so I'd like 6 points and get winning mentality. Very good window and Xia has proved he's true to his words. I think we can expect big things frm him and early evidence shows we are very lucky to have him.

Any body know our total spend and what was toons just as interest?

by Villa Ranger Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:51 pm

danclare82 wrote:Forest and Brentford at home nxt I think so I'd like 6 points and get winning mentality. Very good window and Xia has proved he's true to his words. I think we can expect big things frm him and early evidence shows we are very lucky to have him.

Any body know our total spend and what was toons just as interest?

Our total outlay 50 million with 16 million coming in. Nett spend plus £33M

Toons total outlay 55 million with 86 million coming in. Nett spend minus £31 million

Outspent them by £64 million nett.

This, despite both teams benefiting from £40M each in parachute payments

The Doctor has signalled his intent.

Ashley has spent the summer asset-stripping.

He's effectively had 71 Million quid out of the 'Cloob' (as Rafa would call it) and into his bank account, but hey, let's carry on pretending they're the richest club in the EFL. 2016 Summer Transfer Speculation - Page 34 3769219917

2016 Summer Transfer Speculation - Page 34 3769219917

by DaveAV1 Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:58 pm

I think we have spent about £55m, I'm not sure how much we got back, around £15 to £20m I would guess. I read earlier that if Sissoko went for £30m which he has, then they will have made £31m profit. I think that means that the 12 players they have brought in have cost them £25m. Ok there are some loans, but that works out at about £2m a head. Can't be the highest of quality.

If they do ok then the Geordies will obviously be happy with the fat waiter and forget Mike Ashley exists. But if things go tits up, they'll drown Ashley in an ocean of tears. Especially as he's turned a profit instead of investing.

by DaveAV1 Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:01 am

Cheers Villa Ranger, I knew someone would have the right numbers! The asset stripping is exactly what the Toon will be pointing at Laughing

by BillytheKid Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:19 am

Just thought i would treat you all to the Toon barmies melting down over them signing Daryl Murphy for £5million from Ipswich 33 years old 2016 Summer Transfer Speculation - Page 34 498107619

2016 Summer Transfer Speculation - Page 34 498107619

READ THIS FROM TF Newcastle forum LOL

Re: The Daryl Murphy Thread (Fee Agreed)
Postby originallad » Sun Aug 28, 2016 10:35 pm

Duke wrote:
Holystone... wrote:
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Sorry but you're not thinking straight. How can you say he's s***? Who you comparing him with ? His stats are decent . As for wanting the club to bring someone in for the future I'm bored with the number of times that old chestnut is used. Ffs we're still applying that to Mitro and he cost a fortune. I wish fans would get this dreamy rosy picture of is being a development club or one that has the luxury to spend developing talent .
We're not . We're having to get stuck in and getting turned over by teams like Huddersfield.
This lad scores goals. He's no mug and knows if amd it's a big if we go straight back up we're going to want younger proven talent but that's for another day.
Benteke prices will now be the norm for anyone half decent in Premiership and our present strike force of Perez, Mitro, Riv et al took out down . Expect changes in the future but for now getting down and dirty buying quick fixes works for me.

I've seen him play several times for Ireland and live a couple of times. His scoring record for Ipswich in the Championship isn't even 1 in 3 and less than that for the rest of his career. 4 goals in 84 games for Sunderland in the PL. Less than 1 in 3 in the League of Ireland . 33 years old and costing £5m. Sorry for not being excited like.

Postby The Deluded Pablo Diego Jose Francisco » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:25 pm

I don't understand this at all, especially when he's 33 years old! <****>

http://www.toonforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8571&start=80
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So we sign captains championship promotion players and even Tish top up coming talent and Newcastle go for Murphy an ex Sunderland player who is 33 and shit and pay them £5 million ffs LOL honestly i bet mad Mick at Ipswich is pissing himself laffin

by danclare82 Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:18 am

Villa Ranger wrote:
danclare82 wrote:Forest and Brentford at home nxt I think so I'd like 6 points and get winning mentality. Very good window and Xia has proved he's true to his words. I think we can expect big things frm him and early evidence shows we are very lucky to have him.

Any body know our total spend and what was toons just as interest?

Our total outlay 50 million with 16 million coming in. Nett spend plus £33M

Toons total outlay 55 million with 86 million coming in. Nett spend minus £31 million

Outspent them by £64 million nett.

This, despite both teams benefiting from £40M each in parachute payments

The Doctor has signalled his intent.

Ashley has spent the summer asset-stripping.

He's effectively had 71 Million quid out of the 'Cloob' (as Rafa would call it) and into his bank account, but hey, let's carry on pretending they're the richest club in the EFL.

Thanks mate. Wow. 86 million back for them. That's crazy. Very happy with our business this summer. Now let's get bk up!

by Villa_Dan Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:29 am

I despair with some of our fans. Absolute foreheads. This fucking prick claims to be a football writer, if that's the case I'm changing my profession. Fucking ridiculous.

Have serious questions about @Dr_TonyXia and @retsub12, willing to let two top players go for nothing, very concerning

by Villa_Dan Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:40 am

@Dr_TonyXia @retsub12 Unless a player comes in who excites as much as Traore did then I'll have to return the season tickets
— Tom Joseph Harding (@joseph20121995) August 31, 2016

by Villa_Dan Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:41 am

@Lewis_C_AVFC who was better? Gueye topped the stats and Traore most naturally gifted player I've seen
— Tom Joseph Harding (@joseph20121995) August 31, 2016

by Guest Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:26 am

Very good transfer window.

I started a thread with ins and outs and loans out with duration etc. but it was too much work haha. And I really can't for my life figure out how to make good tables in this forum layout.

by FoxyAV Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:30 am

Does he mention wanting Gabby to start every match?

I liked Traore too but the good Dr said he only wanted players fully committed to the club, and that wasn't Traore, what was he supposed to do? Gueye was part of the plans and went for money. Perhaps Tom needs to sit down with his kids and explain what a mercenary is.

Moving on, I really thought that while Randy pumped a load of cash into transforming Bodymoor Heath, the academy wasn't performing as an integral part of the club. I really hope Dr X and RDM have a good look at it and how it's run, and concentrate on bringing in some promising talent to develop and making the academy an attractive enough place for them to want to choose over PL clubs. The dire and mostly embarrassing football of the last few years would have put off a lot of people wanting to take their kids to watch matches, kids who could quite easily want to go to see Leicester or pretty much anyone else instead. Revitalising the club in the Championship has to mean a lot more than just the first team, it has to involve a huge push to make the club relevant again.

by BillytheKid Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:43 am

I tweeted that Tom the pleb and said just how many times did Adama play so how can he moan about selling a player that never played? I mean even making out his kids are disappointed and he was the only player they liked WHAT A FECKIN TOOL

He has to be a Chav or Sandwell loon on the wind up.

by Villa_Dan Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:45 am

BillytheKid wrote:I tweeted that Tom the pleb and said just how many times did Adama play so how can he moan about selling a player that never played? I mean even making out his kids are disappointed and he was the only player they liked WHAT A FECKIN TOOL

He has to be a Chav or Sandwell loon on the wind up.

It was the line about returning his season tickets unless we sign someone as exciting as Adama - anyone who makes it onto the pitch for more than 20mins at a time would do!!

by DelboyVilla Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:51 am

Villa_Dan wrote:
@Lewis_C_AVFC who was better? Gueye topped the stats and Traore most naturally gifted player I've seen
— Tom Joseph Harding (@joseph20121995) August 31, 2016

Bloody hell I have been a Villa fan for 40 years and people never cease to amaze me with their stupidity?

How anyone could tell Adama was that 'naturally gifted' from the couple of games he played I will never know? He is certainly no Messi or Ronaldo? He's not as gifted as Yorke or Collymore? And he makes Wilshire look tough?

He was fast but so is Gabby and I think Gabby has a better footballing 'brain'!

We didn't want to sell Gueye and only had to because of the cockwombles in charge of the club when we signed him!!!

by DelboyVilla Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:04 am

Anyway let's not let a couple of knobjockeys spoil what has been the best transfer window since 1991?

Cyrille Regis Coventry City Free transfer
Dalian Atkinson Real Sociedad £1,600,000
Ugo Ehiogu West Bromwich Albion £40,000
Les Sealey Manchester United Free transfer
Paul Mortimer Charlton Athletic £350,000
Shaun Teale Bournemouth £300,000
Kevin Richardson Real Sociedad £450,000
Steve Staunton Liverpool £1,100,000
Dariusz Kubicki Legia Warsaw £200,000
Garry Parker Nottingham Forest £650,000
David Farrell Redditch United £45,000
Earl Barrett Oldham Athletic £1,700,000
Mark Bosnich Manchester United Free transfer
Trevor Berry

We lost Platt but some great signings there!

by Villa_Dan Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:48 am

Speaking of transfers, spare a thought for poor old Jermaine Jenas whose injuries have taken such a toll on him that he's confused Alex McLeish with Martin O'Neill.

That or he just didn't really give a shit and was only interested in what he was being paid

My loan move to Aston Villa in August 2011 and transfer to QPR in January 2013 were on transfer deadline days too. I joined Martin O'Neill at Villa who had been chasing me for a long time and I was going to be one of the bigger players at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37234594

by deadbuzzardalive Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:10 am

Apparently only Man City, Man United and Arsenal had bigger net spends than us.

by BillytheKid Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:51 am

Villa_Dan wrote:
BillytheKid wrote:I tweeted that Tom the pleb and said just how many times did Adama play so how can he moan about selling a player that never played? I mean even making out his kids are disappointed and he was the only player they liked WHAT A FECKIN TOOL

He has to be a Chav or Sandwell loon on the wind up.

It was the line about returning his season tickets unless we sign someone as exciting as Adama - anyone who makes it onto the pitch for more than 20mins at a time would do!!

Yes mate that got to me also, that's what makes me think he is on the wind up and a Chav Small Heather or Sandwell dweller, i have never heard so much bollox in all my life, ok Adama was quick but he was always injured and no manager was picking him Tim Black Garde and RDM says something, i just think its a wind up tbh

by Wriggle Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:55 am

Villa_Dan wrote:
@Dr_TonyXia @retsub12 Unless a player comes in who excites as much as Traore did then I'll have to return the season tickets
— Tom Joseph Harding (@joseph20121995) August 31, 2016

Haha I noticed this clown also and sent him a number of messages asking him t o explain why he thought Adama was talented, outside of the fact he is fast!

He's basically a poor mans Tony Daley or Raheem Sterling...

by **De Kuip** Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:21 pm

DelboyVilla wrote:Anyway let's not let a couple of knobjockeys spoil what has been the best transfer window since 1991?

Cyrille Regis Coventry City Free transfer
Dalian Atkinson Real Sociedad £1,600,000
Ugo Ehiogu West Bromwich Albion £40,000
Les Sealey Manchester United Free transfer
Paul Mortimer Charlton Athletic £350,000
Shaun Teale Bournemouth £300,000
Kevin Richardson Real Sociedad £450,000
Steve Staunton Liverpool £1,100,000
Dariusz Kubicki Legia Warsaw £200,000
Garry Parker Nottingham Forest £650,000
David Farrell Redditch United £45,000
Earl Barrett Oldham Athletic £1,700,000
Mark Bosnich Manchester United Free transfer
Trevor Berry

We lost Platt but some great signings there!

That list brings back some fond memories!

On a side note, seeing David Farrell's name there - I'm pretty sure he, Brian Small and my brother all got taken on at Villa at the same time, all from the same junior school (Kingshurst). My bro was released after 2 years YTS (as it was in those days), Maybe I'm mistaken and David only went to Villa from Redditch, but I though he was at Villa as a kid as well - can't remember now. Brian Small stayed a while but didn't quite make the grade longevity-wise. The reason I write this is because as well as those three, Gary Shaw was also at Kingshurst Juniors, so it's not a bad supply chain for a little primary school is it? Especially with the 3 I mentioned all coming from the same school class in the same year. They had a bloody good school team for a couple of years lol!
In those days all the apprentices were attached to a professional, my bro was paired with Derek Mountfield who was a great bloke and gave my bro loads of kit - boots the lot. I used to try and nick it all as it had DM written/sewed onto it - my initials. Happy days. Very Happy

by Villa Ranger Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:27 pm

deadbuzzardalive wrote:Apparently only Man City, Man United and Arsenal had bigger net spends than us.

Not quite.

Chelsea and West Ham also had higher nett spends.

Still, if you'd told me when we were taken over that we would outspend three quarters of the Premier League, with the new TV money deal in effect, I'd have said you were 'on something'. Bash

I'm still shocked tbh. I suppose I'm more shocked that the PL clubs didn't spend more. Despite SSN jizzing over the £1.2 Bn 'spent', the total EPL nett spend was just over £700M, and of that figure, £485M was spent by just four clubs.

Nett spending by the other 16 PL clubs was fairly modest (average £15M). That's a surprise to me.

As Joppe rightly said, looked at in isolation Villa's nett spend of £33M doesn't look a lot, (we spent more during O'Neil's first full transfer window around 8 years ago) but, viewed in the context of other clubs in the top two tiers, it's fairly impressive.

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