The new AVTVhd.

by Fpuppys Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:01 pm

Yesterday most of us saw Aston Villa Launch the New AVTVhd site shortly before the much publicised kit launch for the 2015/16 season, even though the kit launch was free I brought a pre-season pass (no longer a season ticket holder:( ) but loved watching pre-season games, in previous years this was a promotional thing (£4.99) to encourage people to buy monthly or annual passes, Yet with this years failed attempt, we were asked to pay close to six times as much.

I think most people reading this will agree that this is a step back and not a step forward as most BIG CLUBS offer this service for free, I'm not a cheap skate, but at the same time I'm not a mug.

We have heard that today's staff meeting was about rebranding and what-not (believe in your heart). Well if this is how to generate extra funds for Tim Sherwood to have his first pre season, I've paid my whack, £24.00 for a month of something I could find on the www (with possible better streaming and no loop backs)

You can get a day pass for £6.00 for 24hrs.

Pre-season pass for £24.00.

Annual pass £44.99.

I brought the pre-season pass for £24.00 and still unsure if last nights shambolic attempt of streaming to over 50 thousand plus was a small glitch or are we as fans getting screwed?

This court is now in session: The new AVTVhd. 1375627042

by VTID85 Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:40 pm

I'd really like to think that yesterday wasn't representative of the actual service. If indeed the quality is the best you can expect, would there not be grounds to apply for a refund if the service does not meet satisfactory standards? I would imagine so.

by Fpuppys Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:45 am

VTID85 wrote:I'd really like to think that yesterday wasn't representative of the actual service. If indeed the quality is the best you can expect, would there not be grounds to apply for a refund if the service does not meet satisfactory standards? I would imagine so.

A refund is not an issue, the point was, OS made such a big media hype about the new AVTVhd crap that we saw yesterday, "Yes" there is grounds for a refund and if I have to I will, I'm not judging yesterdays performance from what may happen in the near future but I need convincing.

by kimbo Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:49 am

I think the new price structure is pretty harsh, and disgusting if it's not considerably - and I mean considerably - improved!

by villabromsgrove Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:58 pm

I've seen people saying that "there's nothing wrong with AVTV, it's only when you get a larger number of people trying to access it that it struggles".

Like match days for example! The new AVTVhd. 1715320296

by GadgetMan Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:14 pm

I may be wrong, but I think the kit unveiling was still delivered by premium TV as the provider. We've signed two new digital partners (one for the website) and one to run AVTV and deliver streaming. Maybe they haven't kicked in yet and the quality will be better? I know they do Arsenals site and someone said they do Man city or Liverpool (I can't remember who)

I know the site will be updated in October time (ish) so maybe just for now we're with the old providers, who have proven to be rubbish.

That aside I think the pricing is crap and it should be free content. If you really want to embrace the support and be engaged you do this stuff for free or heavily subsidised (at least ST holders get it free) I'll get the pre season pass as I want to watch the friendlies.

by villabromsgrove Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:38 pm

It annoys me that AVFC are so pathetic at fan marketing. Nobody at Villa seems to have a basic grasp of fan psychology. If AVTV was free to fans and the content was vastly improved, then the spin off to Villa would be an increase in ticket sales. Just buying one ticket would be a rough equivalent to a full years subscription to AVTV!

When Villa advertise for people to work in the marketing department, do they start the Ad with the words "Thicko's required'!

by **De Kuip** Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:50 pm

So, being my usual dumb self here - is AVTVhd the only version now? I have been subscribed to AVTV at £5/month.
I tried to log on yesterday but it wasn't having any of it - so has the old version stopped? I'll have to check my on-line bank statement tonight to see if the subscription has stopped. strange as I've had no contact whatsoever to say AVTV is changing and offering me options.
As it happens I don't think I'll continue anyway - I got it last year for the pre-season stuff and have never looked at it since, just too lazy to cancel!

Anyone else changed/stopped from the original AVTV?

by Villa_Dan Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:53 pm

Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attending the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

by villabromsgrove Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:57 pm

Villa_Dan wrote:Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attended the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

That's another example of the lack of intelligence in our marketing department. FREE AVTV sub to all season ticket holders .... when it's the non season ticket holders they should be targeting.

by GadgetMan Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:42 pm

Villa_Dan wrote:Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attending the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

Certainly worth checking out if it's free. They have the ore season games, so worth it just for that (if you can tolerate the terrible Jack commentary. Have to say once it worked the other night (I guess as it was free the hits were Huge) the 720p was a marked improvement. 1080p would have been better as they're marketing it as HD. It's not full HD, but still a vastly better picture. I'd watch it if it were free Dan.

by Villa_Dan Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:02 pm

I'll give the preseason matches a bash (except Walsall and Wolves as I'm off to them)

by smetro Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:03 pm

Villa_Dan wrote:Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attending the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

I wouldn't say its crap - its just no for me

The only thing I use it for is pre season friendlies.

Ive got no interest in watching highlights, when Ive either been to the game - or watched on MOTD - if theres the odd goal I must see now - I hit you tube.

The rest of it is basically the sanitised club programme via video - not for me.

What I would pay to watch is TBAR version of big brother - imagine me, kimbo, Mazrim, Harry, etc - in the same house all summer ? - hey we could buy the club with the proceeds.......!

by kimbo Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:29 pm

smetro wrote:
Villa_Dan wrote:Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attending the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

I wouldn't say its crap - its just no for me

The only thing I use it for is pre season friendlies.

Ive got no interest in watching highlights, when Ive either been to the game - or watched on MOTD - if theres the odd goal I must see now - I hit you tube.

The rest of it is basically the sanitised club programme via video - not for me.

What I would pay to watch is TBAR version of big brother - imagine me, kimbo, Mazrim, Harry, etc - in the same house all summer ? - hey we could buy the club with the proceeds.......!

Might be worth pitching to Channel 5

by villabromsgrove Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:36 pm

kimbo wrote:
smetro wrote:
Villa_Dan wrote:Just got an email and apparently I get AVTV for free again as punishment for attending the home games.

I have never used it before. Is it worth me bothering?

I wouldn't say its crap - its just no for me

The only thing I use it for is pre season friendlies.

Ive got no interest in watching highlights, when Ive either been to the game - or watched on MOTD - if theres the odd goal I must see now - I hit you tube.

The rest of it is basically the sanitised club programme via video - not for me.

What I would pay to watch is TBAR version of big brother - imagine me, kimbo, Mazrim, Harry, etc - in the same house all summer ? - hey we could buy the club with the proceeds.......!
Might be worth pitching to Channel 5

I think it might be a very short series! Imagine how many evictions there'd be! The new AVTVhd. 1662365926

by Fpuppys Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:26 pm

Out of boredom I checked out what other PL clubs were charging;

Arsenal. Free
Aston villa. £6.00 per day....£24.00 pre season...£44.99 annual
Bournemouth. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Chelsea. Free certain areas...£5.99 a month
Crystal Palace. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Everton. pre season six matches £17.99
Leicester. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Liverpool. £4.99 a month
Man City. Free
Man United. £7.00 a month for sky customers
Newcastle. £3.99 a month
Norwich. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Southampton. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Stoke. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Sunderland. Free? not sure.
Swansea. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Tottenham. Free? not sure.
WBA. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
West Ham. No idea.

I started getting even more bored than I was to start with towards the end and really couldn't be arsed to join West Ham to access all areas, all the similar price clubs with £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual have found great web sites which are easy to navigate around. I hope that when we get the new site in October? it will be as good as those.
Villa management should be very ashamed of charging those figures. The new AVTVhd. 1375627042

by villabromsgrove Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:45 pm

Fpuppys wrote:Out of boredom I checked out what other PL clubs were charging;

Arsenal. Free
Aston villa. £6.00 per day....£27.00 pre season...£44.99 annual
Bournemouth. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Chelsea. Free certain areas...£5.99 a month
Crystal Palace. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Everton. pre season six matches £17.99
Leicester. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Liverpool. £4.99 a month
Man City. Free
Man United. £7.00 a month for sky customers
Newcastle. £3.99 a month
Norwich. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Southampton. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Stoke. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Sunderland. Free? not sure.
Swansea. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Tottenham. Free? not sure.
WBA. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
West Ham. No idea.

I started getting even more bored than I was to start with towards the end and really couldn't be arsed to join West Ham to access all areas, all the similar price clubs with £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual have found great web sites which are easy to navigate around. I hope that when we get the new site in October? it will be as good as those.
Villa management should be very ashamed of charging those figures.

Nice bit of research , thanks. The new AVTVhd. 3769219917

by kimbo Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:51 pm

Makes it even worse IMO.

by Zidane Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:33 pm

kimbo wrote:Makes it even worse IMO.

oh look moaning here too

by kimbo Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:04 pm

Zidane wrote:
kimbo wrote:Makes it even worse IMO.
oh look moaning here too

Excuse me pal?

by FoxyAV Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:06 pm

De Kuip wrote:So, being my usual dumb self here - is AVTVhd the only version now? I have been subscribed to AVTV at £5/month.
I tried to log on yesterday but it wasn't having any of it - so has the old version stopped? I'll have to check my on-line bank statement tonight to see if the subscription has stopped. strange as I've had no contact whatsoever to say AVTV is changing and offering me options.
As it happens I don't think I'll continue anyway - I got it last year for the pre-season stuff and have never looked at it since, just too lazy to cancel!

Anyone else changed/stopped from the original AVTV?

I tried logging in and it told me I needed to change my password using an email they were sending. It didn't arrive, tried again, that one didn't arrive either. I clicked on the 'forgot your password' tab, entered my details, didn't receive the promised email from that either. I've emailed the site direct.

I don't mind it, I use it to watch some of the U18/U21 matches and highlights. For the last few years I've avoided MOTD mainly because I can't be arsed watching all the way through to the end to see us lose with 30% possession, and it's handy being able to watch the one win in five on AVTV.

by avfc85 Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:26 pm

Zidane wrote:
kimbo wrote:Makes it even worse IMO.
oh look moaning here too

by avfc85 Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:27 pm

Fpuppys wrote:Out of boredom I checked out what other PL clubs were charging;

Arsenal. Free
Aston villa. £6.00 per day....£24.00 pre season...£44.99 annual
Bournemouth. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Chelsea. Free certain areas...£5.99 a month
Crystal Palace. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Everton. pre season six matches £17.99
Leicester. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Liverpool. £4.99 a month
Man City. Free
Man United. £7.00 a month for sky customers
Newcastle. £3.99 a month
Norwich. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Southampton. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Stoke. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Sunderland. Free? not sure.
Swansea. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
Tottenham. Free? not sure.
WBA. £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual
West Ham. No idea.

I started getting even more bored than I was to start with towards the end and really couldn't be arsed to join West Ham to access all areas, all the similar price clubs with £4.49 a month....£37.99 annual have found great web sites which are easy to navigate around. I hope that when we get the new site in October? it will be as good as those.
Villa management should be very ashamed of charging those figures.

Thanks for this, I will not be paying that price, especially having to listen to that tw*t JW! The new AVTVhd. 1715320296

by FoxyAV Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:58 am

My password change email arrived, I can now access AVTV but the homepage doesn't fit on my (Macbook) screen and I can't make it fit. Teething problems...

by villabromsgrove Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:26 pm

I see AVTV was up to it's usual tricks last night. A subscription channel that can't get a stream up!

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