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Post by Loth on Sat May 24, 2014 6:55 pm

I'm not quite sure the current lack of sparkle on the pitch is all due to Lambert, but in the event that we do want a replacement I think we could do a lot worse than to give Mr. Cowans a shot.

He is Villa through and through, he has repeatedly stepped up when the club has asked him to do something.  There is no doubt in my mind that he would do the best for the club that he could so.  So the only real question is, whether his best would be good enough.

He doesn't have much first team experience that's true, but surely he cant be worse than some of the crabs we have had managing Villa in recent memory.  He does know the younger guys coming through the ranks well and since it seems they will be the backbone of our team for the foreseeable future that might be a bigger asset than it seems. Right now, after the departure of Culverhouse and Karsa he is filling in as assistant manager if I recall correctly.

I'd love to hear opinions from others.  Would he even be interested in the job?

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Post by Guest on Sat May 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Not for me mate. We need somebody bloody ruthless in charge, Sid is too much of a nice guy to be honest. Sid for manager, sorry, not for me.
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Post by Villa_Dan on Sat May 24, 2014 8:39 pm

Cowens is a great footballing guy, but not a manager for me. A perennial #2 or youth coach IMO
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Post by erdingtonb24 on Sat May 24, 2014 9:10 pm

Yes
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Post by BournVilla on Sat May 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Absolutely not. He's never proved himself as a manager anywhere and has never looked like he has had the ambition to be one either.
We need to find a manager who has earned the right to be a manager, not employ someone for sentimental reasons. It's like something Newcastle would do.
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Post by Guest on Sat May 24, 2014 9:19 pm

@BournVilla wrote:Absolutely not. He's never proved himself as a manager anywhere and has never looked like he has had the ambition to be one either.
We need to find a manager who has earned the right to be a manager, not employ someone for sentimental reasons. It's like something Newcastle would do.
100% agreed with you on that.
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Post by Guest on Sat May 24, 2014 9:35 pm

Sentimentality and football management rarely mix. Except for Villa and Brian Little but he had already proved himself as a manager at that stage.
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Post by Guest on Sat May 24, 2014 10:41 pm

Towards the end of last season I was in favour of having Sid step up to get us to the end of the season and provide a short term lift. Depending on your analysis of the current situation Lambert is either a nightwatchman taking care of things in the interim period before a change in owner brings a new manager or he is going to be our manager next season.

In the first scenario, sacking him is pointless as it makes no difference whether he or Sid is in charge. In the second, as dark as many of us find the prospect of Lambert staying on I am not sure that Sid would be the right man. At best it is a leap into the unknown. I'd also hate to see Sid thrust into the limelight and hung out to dry by having to manage the club under tight constraints as Lambert has been.
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Post by Guest on Sat May 24, 2014 10:45 pm

Billy McBingo wrote:Towards the end of last season I was in favour of having Sid step up to get us to the end of the season and provide a short term lift. Depending on your analysis of the current situation Lambert is either a nightwatchman taking care of things in the interim period before a change in owner brings a new manager or he is going to be our manager next season.

In the first scenario, sacking him is pointless as it makes no difference whether he or Sid is in charge. In the second, as dark as many of us find the prospect of Lambert staying on I am not sure that Sid would be the right man. At best it is a leap into the unknown. I'd also hate to see Sid thrust into the limelight and hung out to dry by having to manage the club under tight constraints as Lambert has been.
Agreed Billy.
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Post by kimbo on Sat May 24, 2014 11:24 pm

Billy McBingo wrote:Towards the end of last season I was in favour of having Sid step up to get us to the end of the season and provide a short term lift. Depending on your analysis of the current situation Lambert is either a nightwatchman taking care of things in the interim period before a change in owner brings a new manager or he is going to be our manager next season.

In the first scenario, sacking him is pointless as it makes no difference whether he or Sid is in charge. In the second, as dark as many of us find the prospect of Lambert staying on I am not sure that Sid would be the right man. At best it is a leap into the unknown. I'd also hate to see Sid thrust into the limelight and hung out to dry by having to manage the club under tight constraints as Lambert has been.

I concur with this.

Also, most importantly - I am very confident that Sid would not at all be interested.
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Post by Roncrete on Sun May 25, 2014 12:36 pm

Cowans? No thanks not as manager.
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Post by Dek of Villa on Sun May 25, 2014 12:55 pm

Sid always appears to me that he enjoys working with the youth team players and when asked to move into the first team coaching, looks uncomfortable.

therefore he definitely shouldn't even be considered for the managers job. It's right out of his comfort zone.
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Post by Leighton on Mon May 26, 2014 1:41 am

No.
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Post by whiteensign on Mon May 26, 2014 8:44 am

He's a Villa legend, but has no real managerial experience to his name!! Given the supporters reactions to McLeish and Lambert and the fact that Sid with no experience and possibly limited resources (there's still no concrete evidence to suggest that we'll have loads of money to spend next season) could well end up in the same boat!!! I don't think it would really be fair on Sid to possibly jeopardise his current standing as a 'Villa Legend'. Of course you could argue that it's not fair to not give him the chance, but I am of the opinion it would all end up rather sad and messy Sad
When Little (of the walks on water type Wink) came, he had already experienced managing Darlington and Leicester to promotions, so he came with some pedigree, but lets please not throw Sid into the cauldron!!!
So it's a NO from me!!!
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Post by Morpheus on Mon May 26, 2014 9:38 am

I think he has already stated inside Villa Park that he doesn't want it so we need to look elsewhere.
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Post by Wookster on Mon May 26, 2014 9:57 am

Its a big no from me too.

Its always a big mistake when a club legend is thrust forward and is found wanting. It happens at so many clubs and they end up on the scrap heap.

Leave him in his comfort zone and long may he continue
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Post by prmort on Mon May 26, 2014 3:19 pm

Agreed.
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Post by achilles on Mon May 26, 2014 6:30 pm

Absolutely not, I want to remember all the glory days when he played for the Villa!
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Post by Guest on Mon May 26, 2014 9:49 pm

Love the bloke but it's too big a job for him. Think he'd prefer to stay with the youth teams anyway.
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Post by JohnJones on Mon May 26, 2014 10:53 pm

No.
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Post by Guest on Tue May 27, 2014 1:48 am

If he was ever going to be in the hotseat it was only ever worth the risk for the last few games when it seemed as though they weren't playing for Lambert and needed something new just to get them a three points from somewhere.

Definitely not the time for him now.
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Post by Guest on Tue May 27, 2014 8:56 am

Absolutely not - cowans is not manager material !
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Post by roba19 on Tue May 27, 2014 10:15 am

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Post by jfeathero on Tue May 27, 2014 12:36 pm

I'm in the Yes camp here. He's been around for ages, his tactical knowledge has got to be right up there. He knows the club in and out, he'll be passionate like no other manager, which is what we've been missing with the likes of Mcleish, Houllier, Lambert in charge.

I'm all for it. That said, I cant see it happening.
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Post by Wookster on Tue May 27, 2014 9:59 pm

Love his story of how he blacked his pumas up for the European Cup final and tippexed a Nike swoosh on the side. Class
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