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Howard Hodgson - An Introduction

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Re: Howard Hodgson - An Introduction

Post by HH 8166 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:37 pm

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@HH 8166 wrote:Neither could work with O Neill who was a monster to deal with.. I still have nightmares about the deal he approved for Beye.. £45K a week for 3 years and then barely talked to him, let alone played him.. (£7M blown on wages). Villa didn't learn though and blew similar amount on Hutton wages wise plus £4M transfer fee


That is absolutely criminal. But they got away with blaming MON for everything for too long. MON was long gone when deals for Hutton, Makoun, N'Zogbia, Jenas were completed and I am sure these all had a pretty big impact on a deteriorating financial outlook. At least with some of MON's signings, Young, Milner and Downing, there were huge profits for the club. These were invested very badly.

I agree. You can only blame MON for so long and he has been gone since 2010. Many mistakes have been made since. Bent will cost the club over £40M in transfer fee and wages alone!

Bloody hell. Unreal. DO you agree with me that Bent was sanctioned because of the Milner money and the fact that they planned to cash in on Young the following summer?

At the time he was paraded as a 'marquee' signing but I see him more as panic when relegation looked a distinct possibility and there were assets and funds to back it.

100% correct.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:17 pm

I was chuffed to bits when we signed Bent, and to a large extent he kept us up.

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Post by HH 8166 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:41 pm

Ian wrote:I was chuffed to bits when we signed Bent, and to a large extent he kept us up.

Bent did keep us up and with the right service is a proven goalscorer but he doesn't do much else. Since we sold Young and Downing he lost his supply. Our mismanagement of him is the issue here and has meant a player that we paid £24M for and gave a long contract worth £70K a week will leave in a year's time for zero. In the meantime he is due back here for another season so with a new manager you never know.. He may rekindle him.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:43 pm

@HH 8166 wrote:
Ian wrote:I was chuffed to bits when we signed Bent, and to a large extent he kept us up.

Bent did keep us up and with the right service is a proven goalscorer but he doesn't do much else. Since we sold Young and Downing he lost his supply. Our mismanagement of him is the issue here and has meant a player that we paid £24M for and gave a long contract worth £70K a week will leave in a year's time for zero. In the meantime he is due back here for another season so with a new manager you never know.. He may rekindle him.

Do you think, since Leeds, there has been a worse run English club than Villa?

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Post by Denis_B on Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:15 pm

Do you think, since Leeds, there has been a worse run English club than Villa?
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Post by HH 8166 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:03 pm

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Ian wrote:I was chuffed to bits when we signed Bent, and to a large extent he kept us up.

Bent did keep us up and with the right service is a proven goalscorer but he doesn't do much else. Since we sold Young and Downing he lost his supply. Our mismanagement of him is the issue here and has meant a player that we paid £24M for and gave a long contract worth £70K a week will leave in a year's time for zero. In the meantime he is due back here for another season so with a new manager you never know.. He may rekindle him.

Do you think, since Leeds, there has been a worse run English club than Villa?

Blackburn, Portsmouth, Birmingham... But certainly we are poorly run and are put to shame by likes of Everton, Southampton, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:56 pm

When you look at the money put in for where we are now whoever has been running this club should be ashamed of themselves.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:56 pm

Fergal wrote:When you look at the money put in for where we are now whoever has been running this club should be ashamed of themselves.

That's what I mean. Vila has been like a black hole. So much money to end up at square one. Just bizarre.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:28 pm

Not quite as bad as the years immediately before Deadly took the reigns and brought Tommy Docherty in...but getting there, I fear.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:41 pm

New revolution needed urgently.

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:43 pm

He was a Villa supporter too....

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Post by Guest on Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:46 pm

By the way, well done Trotters and Howard on this part of the website. Absolutely brilliant material here.  Very Happy

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Post by HH 8166 on Thu May 01, 2014 11:15 am

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Fergal wrote:When you look at the money put in for where we are now whoever has been running this club should be ashamed of themselves.

That's what I mean. Vila has been like a black hole. So much money to end up at square one. Just bizarre.

The guy that has been at the forefront of this first as CFO and then as CEO is Faulkner yet Lerner sticks to him like glue??

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 11:22 am

Perhaps he is doing a cracking job with the books.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 3:53 pm

@HH 8166 wrote:
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Fergal wrote:When you look at the money put in for where we are now whoever has been running this club should be ashamed of themselves.

That's what I mean. Vila has been like a black hole. So much money to end up at square one. Just bizarre.

The guy that has been at the forefront of this first as CFO and then as CEO is Faulkner yet Lerner sticks to him like glue??


I know, I can't understand that. Faulkner is the common denominator to an awful lot of crap that has gone on at Villa Park these last few years. It's like a closed shop there at the minute.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 5:20 pm

HH you are a great addition to this site - top quality articles as always!

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 5:49 pm

I must say that it is a privilege to read these posts

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 6:17 pm

PDC Lion wrote:I must say that it is a privilege to read these posts

I second the proposal.

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Post by Guest on Thu May 01, 2014 6:18 pm

The posts must be good or you lot need to get a room :)

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Post by HH 8166 on Fri May 02, 2014 12:03 pm

Thanks very much guys.. Have to say the site is refreshing with less cynics than on most Villa websites.

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Post by Guest on Fri May 02, 2014 1:03 pm

Thanks Howard, we just want to talk about Villa and try to debate ways of lifting the club from the current malaise that gripped it.

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Post by HH 8166 on Fri May 02, 2014 1:07 pm

Indeed mate which is my main goal as well. Just written my latest piece and it really does boil down to people in power there simply not caring enough about the good of the club.. As Jamie Carragher said we are drifting like a rudderless ship.

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Post by Guest on Fri May 02, 2014 1:11 pm

Read your piece, nailed it again. There was been a sense that Nero has been fiddling while Rome burned... when relegation threatens a club like Villa you take note and try to ensure it doesn't happen again. We have been living very dangerously.

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Post by HH 8166 on Fri May 02, 2014 1:17 pm

Farrell_10 wrote:Read your piece, nailed it again. There was been a sense that Nero has been fiddling while Rome burned... when relegation threatens a club like Villa you take note and try to ensure it doesn't happen again. We have been living very dangerously.

Very true.. Instead we have ignored the warnings and continue to keep the ship on the same course despite the warnings of "Iceburg dead ahead!"

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Post by Guest on Sat May 03, 2014 1:32 pm

The annoying thing is most fans could see what was coming.

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