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Preseaon friendlies 2018

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Post by De Kuip Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:12 pm

Duh i thought it was 2pm our time and just switched on to see second half start!
Whats the score as nothing showing on the screen.
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Post by De Kuip Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:24 pm

Ah, 2-1 now!
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Post by FoxyAV Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:35 pm

I too switched on at half time.

Another cracking goal from Green and some great play from the Scottish Cafu to set Green up for the second. Green's really making a case for himself!

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Post by deadbuzzardalive Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Green's goal, is well worth watching, for anyone that missed it... The less said about Steer's mistake the better...
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Post by STO67 Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:31 pm

Green playing through the middle is a good idea. on the wing, I think he lacks anticipation and isn't the greatest crosser of the ball. Down the middle, he has less time to think about it and does it naturally, quick too.
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Post by De Kuip Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:35 pm

Yeah i really hope the new lad is decent cos steer is liable too often.
They tried to give jacky boy a kicking though didnt they?
Hutton did well for green's header but feck me i hope hes not pencilled in as part of a back three cos he cant play out with the ball.
Apparently we were crap first half with elmo awol. Be ironic if necessity being the mother of invention reveals that green would be a very effective number 9 (or maybe no. 10).
Still, a win is a win but ive literally no idea how our pre-season will translate into the first match against Hull.
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Post by achilles Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:46 pm

Steer made a great save later on and I would rather he made that mistake in a friendly than in a 'real' game.
Hopefully that is out of the way and he has learnt from it.
The side looked all over the place and a particularly bad first half (yet again), much improved in the second half but it took a special goal from Green to get us back level.
Played with no centre forward which was interesting but I haven't a clue what Bruce actually learnt from that friendly or indeed what his side for the first game will be.
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Post by Villa Ranger Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:03 pm

Fpuppys wrote:Tomorrows game will tell if Jack and James are off, just hope that both are willing to give Villa another season now the investment is here. If NSWE are serious about the club and their investment they have to pay the FFP fine and fuck Bruce Off. Preseaon friendlies 2018 - Page 2 1015550615

There will be no fine to pay.

The punishment is not a fine.

The punishment is a transfer embargo.

What would be the point off FFP, if you could just pay a fine, ffs? Flogging a dead hors
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Post by Villa Ranger Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:09 pm

FoxyAV wrote:That's the majority of the academy players we should be incorporating into the team in these friendlies - that's a serious issue if it is down to anything other than luck.

Is investment in the academy included in FFP?

APPENDIX B – Net Expenditure on Youth Development Activities



1 Introduction

1.1 The Fair Play Requirement allows a Championship Club to exclude expenditure on Youth Development Activities from expenses in arriving at the Fair Play Result because the aim is to encourage investment and expenditure on facilities and activities for the long-term benefit of the Championship Club.
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Post by Villa Ranger Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:14 pm

Fpuppys wrote:Tomorrows game will tell if Jack and James are off, just hope that both are willing to give Villa another season now the investment is here. If NSWE are serious about the club and their investment they have to pay the FFP fine and fuck Bruce Off. Preseaon friendlies 2018 - Page 2 1015550615

6               Consequences of non-fulfilment of the Fair Play Requirement of these Rules (effective 1st December 2014)

6.1           A Championship Club which fails to fulfil the Fair Play Requirement in accordance with these Rules (or is in default of any obligation to provide information in accordance with these Rules) shall be subject to a registration embargo (the “Embargo”) such that The League shall refuse any application by that Championship Club to register any Player with that Championship Club
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Post by FoxyAV Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:19 pm

Thanks for that, very interesting.
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Post by Villa Ranger Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:24 pm

FoxyAV wrote:Thanks for that, very interesting.

No worries.

Obviously it waffles on forever in legalese.

Link here:

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/appendix-5---financial-fair-play-regulations/
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Post by The Utterer Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:32 am

Watched that game in Germany all the way through and for the most part we were very poor. The Steer mistake was coming as he had a couple of very odd moments before that when he looked totally clueless on the pace of the game and dawdled in his area instead of just running towards the ball. It was like he had no sense of time or something really weird and it was no surprise when he misjudged the pace of the ball causing their goal.

Green was largely anonymous other than for the goals and constantly wasted good positions through poor choices or execution of pass. A shame as if he could sort those issues out he'd be decent.

As for the rest? Well basically MEH! Grealish was the old ineffective Grealish with lots of possession but no end product. Yes he got fouled a lot but he did nothing effective of note with the ball.

That's surely not the starting 11 though thank goodness.

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Post by FoxyAV Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:28 am

It never ceases to amaze me that we'll play anyone but an academy striker as striker. Not just us either, every manager seems to fear playing someone without experience when there's a spare midfielder (or defender: see Samba) kicking around.
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Post by achilles Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:46 am

The game reminded me of the first season Bruce was here.
Eleven individuals put out on the field hoping that someone would produce a bit of magic to win the game.
Green did it yesterday and Kodjia did it a lot in the first season.

Some things just never change!
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