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Championship rivals thread 2017/18

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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by Joppe84 on Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:59 pm

If the twitter fans are anywhere as thick as the Villa fans on Facebook, I pity Xia
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by Villa_Dan on Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:07 pm

People don't seem to realise that if we gambled and knowingly broke FFP this season chasing promotion but failed we'd be fucked. Transfer embargo or even starting on a points deduction.

Wolves are pretty much guaranteed to go up so it's not a gamble for them. Whereas we are still paying £6.5m a year in wages for Gabby and Richards!!
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by deadbuzzardalive on Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:24 pm

If Wolves were to break FFP rules they could still be punished regardless of whether they got promoted or not, as happened to Bournemouth and Queens Park Rangers, they only received a fine, but the sanctions are now potentially much harsher with a points deduction or even a demotion an option.

If they really are signing Silva, then I suspect it will be an initial loan and then a permanent deal once they secure the Premier league money.

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Post by AstonThriller on Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:31 pm

@deadbuzzardalive wrote:Well Stoke fans seem to be hanging off Alan Nixon's every word on twitter, which probably isn't very wise to be honest, given his track record, but he's said that Stoke's first choice target isn't Rowett, the club he's at wouldn't put up a big effort to stop leaving, it's an 'ok' name, and he's not managing a Premier league team but has in the past, based on that a lot of their fans are now worrying that it is going to be Bruce.

I think if any Premier team was to go for Bruce it would be Stoke, but I doubt he'd be interested in leaving us for them, unless we advised him that it's best  if both parties moved on.

LOL with Bruce's constant sniping at the fans? I'm sure he'd be more than happy to piss off...and I'd be more than happy for him to do so Laughing .
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by AstonThriller on Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:35 pm

@deadbuzzardalive wrote:If Wolves were to break FFP rules they could still be punished regardless of whether they got promoted or not, as happened to Bournemouth and Queens Park Rangers, they only received a fine, but the sanctions are now potentially much harsher with a points deduction or even a demotion an option.

If they really are signing Silva, then I suspect it will be an initial loan and then a permanent deal once they secure the Premier league money.

Do you really believe that bollox? It's just a typical Portuguese link because of Mendes. Silva is in a world cup year and he's gonna leave a champions league team to go to that dump? I mean come on, do the maths Very Happy . It's funny seeing those cretin Wolves fans actually believe that story though!!!..They are gonna be in for a rude awakening when they realize Mendes's sending them his clients won't be enough to challenge in the Premiership.
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by achilles on Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:58 pm

@deadbuzzardalive wrote:Reports that Wolves have bid £30m+ for Andre Silva, a lot of Villa fans having a meltdown about it on twitter and questioning Xia.

Reports is the right word, lets wait and see because noway can they afford it if they are following FFP!
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Post by Villa_Dan on Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:57 am

Thing is they probably can.

Their new owners only started spending 18 months ago, before that the club was run tighter than a ducks arse. And FFP is based over 3 year spending.

So while Xia had the fucking huge wage bill, on top of costs in paying off managers, plus £80m in transfer fees to account for. The Wolves owners don't. They have only 18 months of spending and wages, which means they probably are safe from FFP for the next 12 months, by which time they'll be getting that sweet sweet Premier League Sky money.
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Post by Joppe84 on Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:26 am

It doesn't even bother me. We could sign Lionel Messi and we would still play shit hoofball with Bruce in charge. Guess those of you who live close to Molineux have other feels about the matter though.
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Post by Dazzle on Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:55 am

I might be in a minority, but I really couldn’t give two fucks about wolves and what they might be doing. Ditto the Villa hating, slum-dwelling, 12-toed, inbred freaks. If and when they start putting offers in for Villa players then it becomes relevant. As long as Aston Villa FC get their shit in order then it matters not a jot what others do as we are the biggest sleeping lion in the division. Functioning correctly the top 2 should comfortably be a minimum for this football club.
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by deadbuzzardalive on Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:33 am

I was bothered about what Wolves were doing at the start of the season, because they were a competitor, but now they're so far ahead of us, that they're gone now, so it doesn't really matter what they do between now until the end of the season, in fact it's probably better for us that they do well, and beat some of our rivals for us.

A lot of the meltdown from Villa fans came from the fact that as there were rumours that we couldn't afford to maintain our pitch properly they were being linked with a thirty million plus footballer, which obviously paints two very different pictures of fortune of two clubs bought by Chinese owners, but neither is probably true (or at least I hope we can afford to maintain the pitch).

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Post by De Kuip on Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:01 am

Right, well a good result for us in the Sheffield derby means we really need a favour from East Anglia as Ipswich could do us a favour against Leeds and Norwich ditto against Brizzle. I'm torn regarding the Derby game as if they lose we're that much closer to second but if they win I can enjoy the bedwetters from the sty getting their sorry noses rubbed in it. I'm not expecting Blunderland to do anything at Cardiff but that might be one of those "givens" that throws up a victory for the hopeless.
Of course none of this matters if we fail to beat Forest - If we do so we want fecking shooting.
Tomorrow could be a superb day or one where yet again we blow a chance to.make real gains.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:56 am

I want Derby to lose, depending on how results go we could be two points behind them tomorrow or eight points, and I know which scenario I prefer; small heath will have plenty of time to lose other games, hopefully Hull and Burton who are both at home, pick up wins, to keep the pressure on them.

To be honest I don't have a good feeling about the Forest game, they will have new manager bounce and will have momentum from beating Arsenal, so hoping all the earlier kick-offs go our way at least, if we can't close the gap, then it not getting any bigger is the next best thing.


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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by deadbuzzardalive on Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:32 pm

So Cardiff are back in second place despite having lost four of the last five, shows how poor this division is. This evenings game has now become a must win.

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Post by achilles on Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:09 pm

@deadbuzzardalive wrote:So Cardiff are back in second place despite having lost four of the last five, shows how poor this division is. This evenings game has now become a must win.

Exactly the standard this season apart from Wolves is really bad, not a good reflection on us is it?

Keep on saying that we are better than this but you can only say that for so long before accepting the reality of the situation!
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Post by AstonThriller on Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:18 pm

So we got the job done and it was crucial. Cardiff and Derby were playing the bottom two, whilst we had to travel to a side who has won plenty of games this season, just beat Arsenal and have a new manager aswell. So we definitely had the short straw this week and we've passed with flying colors. The Sheff U, Preston, Bristol, Leeds and Boro results were just perfect as it meant we'd have stayed in 5th place regardless of the result tonight.

Anyway, next weeks games look very interesting.

Derby vs Bristol (Friday game)
Villa vs Barnsley
Bolton vs Ipswich
Fulham vs Burton
Leeds vs Millwall
Norwich vs Sheff U
Preston vs Birmingham
QPR vs Boro
Reading vs Brentford
Sunderland vs Hull
Wolves vs Forest
Wednesday vs Cardiff

That Derby game is MASSIVE!!...Bristol have come off the rails big time so they will be under huge pressure to get it right. Whilst Derby need to keep winning to stay in second place. And then Cardiff have to go to Wednesday with their new manager having his first game at home. So I see that being a tough game aswell. Leeds also have a tricky little game against Millwall themselves. And we all know how tough QPR away is so Boro could have their hands full. The one team I do worry a little about is Fulham though, they've won four of their last five games and have some easy games coming up so we'll have to keep an eye on them.

All in all we might have a big chance to make a move next Saturday and hopefully go within two or three points of second spot.
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Re: Championship rivals thread 2017/18

Post by achilles on Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:26 pm

@AstonThriller wrote:

The one team I do worry a little about is Fulham though, they've won four of their last five games and have some easy games coming up so we'll have to keep an eye on them.

I think Fulham are definitely riding their luck, how on earth they didn't have a penalty awarded against them when Kalas man-handled the Middlesbrough player to the floor right in front of the referee and then they get a very soft penalty right at the end!

The referees in this league are abysmal, although I heard Darren Ferguson going on about the referee in his game in League 1 so perhaps they are just as bad!
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