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Post by De Kuip Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:51 pm

Christ the emojiis were terrible, these new symbols hurt my head. Maybe he's just written "fuck you" in wingdings and everyone's coming up with convoluted answers like its the Enigma code. Laughing
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Post by achilles Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:00 pm

Nicked from twitter:

♌️ = Leo = Leonardo Ulloa
⛎ = 13th Zodiac = 13 letters in Leonardo Ulloa
♍️ = 150 degrees to 180 degrees on the zodiac circle = Half way there
☯️ = Everything consists of two forces = Need Leicester not to sell Slimani etc...

Last symbols = AT = Alex Tuanzebe = Soon


That was a bloody nightmare as the symbols don't translate properly on here!
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:19 pm

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Aston Villa plan to buy Danish Superliga side Lyngby BK and use them as a ‘feeder club’ to promote talent and send players on loan. Xia will provide medium-term financing before fully taking over the club. [tipsbladet]
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:31 pm

It seems like they've been saved for the short term by a local investor for the short term, but we're still looking into getting involved over the longer term. It's been translated from Danish by google but this article has quotes from Wyness...

Aston Villas club director confirms to BT that the English club will send five employees to Lyngby in the coming week to see the situation.

Lyngby Boldklub confirmed Friday afternoon that the club receives paid wages for the players so that a bankruptcy request is avoided now and here.

Several media announce that the club is only economically rescued for the season, while the long-term investment plan is still missing.

BT now writes that Aston Villa will send five men to Lyngby next week to look into the conditions of the Danish club.

- I would like to confirm that we are coming to Denmark at the beginning of next week. Maybe Monday, but probably Tuesday. We send five men to look into the situation, "said Keith Wyness, club director at BT.

"Aston Villa has a strong connection to Danish football and I have known many Danish players over time so I know the quality of Danish football and the Danish football team education. This is, among other things, what makes Lyngby an interesting club for us.

"I have seen how many opportunities have been created elsewhere, and I hope that we can create an equally good relationship with Lyngby, as there is, for example, between Brentford and FC Midtjylland, where I can see that it works really well.

The club director confirms that Lyngby has now been rescued by a local investment group which has ensured that the club can manage financially throughout the rest of the season

-We do not come to clean up, but to develop the club further, after local business people have done a good job. We believe that we can help develop and run the club better than it has been driven for some years.

"This is what we come to Denmark to be sure of. We still need to meet Lyngby's leadership face to face, and then we'll look closely at the finances before we finally say yes, he says to BT.

Lyngby Boldklub has not yet announced anything about who is behind the financial rescue and how far the updated plan extends.

So whatever's going on,it seems like we're looking to get involved with them in one way or another.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:54 am

Wyness, Luke Organ and others were at Lyngby Boldklub yesterday, B.T. article suggests that we want a majority ownership of the club, and will use it to send players on loan.

We're also in talks with Lyngby-Taarbæk Municipality, because they own the Lyngby football ground, apparently we're interested in either rebuilding it or redeveloping it.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:17 am

The newly released accounts show that we've made losses but they're significantly down on previous seasons, also our commercial revenue is down, but that's to be expected without Premier league football. I don't know how accurate this next bit is, because it's just something I've seen elswhere but apparently they also show that we've been buying land, and have invested £57m into our subsidiary companies.

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Post by deadbuzzardalive Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:44 am

Wasn't sure where to post this, but following on from the theme of buying land, and redeveloping the training ground, the club has confirmed that we've brought additional space next to Bodymoor Heath to build replacement football pitches, for those that we're going to lose to HS2, plans also include us building a 'show pitch' with seating for spectators.

Here's the planning statement... From this page.

So it looks like that with the exception of the 'show pitch', we're just replacing what we're losing, rather than building an whole new training ground as was earlier rumoured.
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Post by De Kuip Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:53 am

Had a reasonably quick scan through and the second of your links goes to a list of pdf documents. The last one- Board Report - is the most useful as it gives an overview.
So the existing BMH is 20 hectares. Whilst HS2 takes away around 2 hectares (not highlighted in this report but we know that from other news sources), Villa are saying that noise and vibration interference will mean all but 2 pitches fall outside of the current UK school and sports pitch standards. The access road into the current BMH is also sliced by HS2 and will be lost.
So AVFC have applied for a further 20 hectares adjacent to the existing BMH footprint, which actually gives them an increased area due to the intended retention of the 2 pitches. The new facility will be almost separated from what is retained of the old, by Coneybury Wood. The new training complex is pretty much all on the old Warwks CC mineral workings site.
As you point out, the main changes to the facility is the doubling in number of floodlit (6m high lights) 3G pitches to 2  and the addition of a "show pitch" with a cantilevered stand and 18m high floodlights to 50 lux (no idea how bright that is but the 3Gs are much less bright). New buildings ate pretty much using the existing footprint of the derelict mineral working ones.
The council recommendation is now for a full ecological survey due to the potential usual suspects - bats/newts/otters etc. It was not felt that bats were an issue, nor any tree felling/bridleway diversion that will take place.
My feeling is any issues will arise from an adverse eco report or the RSPB that has Middleton Lake next door moaning about light/noise pollution.
I'm sure the above was like watching paint dry for most forum members, but I like to see how we are developing our infrastructure and this is a key part of it.
Thanks to @deadbuzzardalive for digging this lot out!
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:24 am

I didn't have to do much digging, I just got it from VillaTalk... And here are the minutes from the fans consultation with Wyness and co...

Fans Consultation Group
Tuesday 20th February 2018

Fan representatives
Anne-Marie Fern      Heroes & Villains
Mo Razzaq         Aston Villa Supporters Trust
Gary Kilburn         Lions Clubs
David Michael         My Old Man Said
Scott Jones         Villa Talk
Steve Gough         Aston Villa Independent Supporters Clubs
Daniel Rolinson      Villa View
Jonathan Fear         Vital Villa
Apologies
John Gillett         Lions Clubs
Michael Steede      Avillafan.com
Peter Warrilow         Aston Villa Supporters Trust

Club representatives
Keith Wyness         Chief Executive Officer
Luke Organ         Chief Commercial Officer
Tommy Jordan      Head of Media & Communications
Lee Preece         SLO

*   A request to pass on our positive thanks to Guy and his staff for the excellent work they are doing building the Aston Villa Foundation.

*   Are there any updates on 5G, wi-fi and phone signals at Villa Park?  And is there any progress on the problems we've reported before on the tannoy system?

5G - We are waiting on final notification from the Department of Culture, Media and Sport regarding the success of our bid.  There were more bids submitted than initially anticipated from many large multinational companies and telco’s.   It will be a challenge but we are hopeful for positive news soon.

Mobile Connectivity - In terms of mobile phone signal and capacity, Ian Dimmock - Operations Director, engaged with EE to perform match day technical surveys to collect real time data on how well the EE network performs in and around Villa Park.  From the initial results, we can clearly see a significant number for failed connections on both voice and data which suggests over capacity. There will be a significant capital investment required from the mobile operators to increase capacity at Villa Park.  Ian to progress.

Wi-Fi – we are currently trialing free public Wi-Fi in all our hospitality areas to assess the stability of our newly installed Cisco Meraki solution.  If after successful testing, there may be an option to enable Wi-Fi on some of our concourses for free fan access. The Technology team have installed new fibre circuits and are currently in the final stages of testing ready for deployment. It is unlikely that we will look to progress Wi-Fi at seats in the stands.  High density Wi-Fi is very expensive and at this stage does not justify the outlay required. Ian to progress and update.
Tannoy system – The Tannoy system requires significant investment.   Whilst we have no immediate plans, we recognise the significant part the PA contributes to our matchdays and will look to address this at our earliest opportunity.

•   The pitch has deteriorated badly.  The one thing we are used to as Villa fans is a beautiful pitch, it was always what was on the pitch that was the problem.  What is the reason for this deterioration and what are the plans to address this?

The recent & continuous wet weather has had a significant impact on the playing surface, which is clearly visible.  In an attempt to mitigate these conditions, we purchased additional pitch lighting rigs in 2017 which has helped to some degree. The Operations Team are currently working on plans for a complete pitch replacement project including, undersoil heating, irrigation and drainage systems. These plans need to be finalised and submitted for financial consideration.

•   The paving stones. Could these be re-introduced and would it be possible for the faded ones to be restored?

Firstly, it is not possible for us to restore any faded Pavers.  When the letters fade, it is because the stone is being worn away from foot traffic and weather.  Once the lettering has faded, there is nothing we can do.  Clearly, we are not in a position to replace the stones, and it is unfortunate that the type of product introduced years ago has led to disappointment for many.  In any future build, we will give consideration to a different solution.  If we can find one, we will give those whose messages are lost the opportunity to replace their wording at minimal cost.

•   With the various disabled supporter issues - what difference does promotion and not getting promoted have on promised plans for measures to assist disabled fans next season? Are there any updates on current actions?

Irrespective of achieving promotion, we are looking to introduce the first of the several projects needed to achieve compliance with the Accessible Stadia Guide.  Further details will be announced in due course, including consultation with AVDSA & AVIDS.  We also hope to have news on a Sensory room and a Changing Places facility.

•   What are the plans - and what is the progress - on the Holte Pub being re-opened? How does the club envisage it could work following the problems attracting customers last time it was open on non match days?  And can there be better pre-publicity for when the Holte Suite is closed on matchdays?

We are currently looking at how to turn the Holte Pub into a functioning venue in the format of a gastro pub. The discussions are inter-linked with a number of commercial areas/contracts that we need to review and so it will take time to effect if anything is agreed. The club would not be responsible for the operation of the venue rather a ‘partner’ in any venture and would work hand in hand with the nominated partner to ensure we are providing maximum footfall and noise for the venue.

In regards to the Holte Suite – simply, yes. There has been an instance this season where a booked conference has clashed with a game and we didn’t communicate well enough. We will endeavor to ensure the venue is always open for football and if that is unavoidable our communications should be strong.

•   What is the current situation with the Lions and Legends and The Former Players Association?  With Ken McNaught doing such a good job of the L&L are there any plans to once again make just one association for our former players and heroes?  And are there any potential fundraising tie-ins with the Foundation?

We formed the Aston Villa Former Players Club (AVFPC) this season.  Ken McNaught has been engaged as the AVFPC Liaison & Fundraising Officer.  Ken reports to a FPC committee (Steve Stride, Shaun Teale, Darius Vassell & Des Bremner).  Ken is in the process of growing the number of former players involved in the club and raising the necessary funds through an events calendar to ensure the AVFPC is able to operate independently, and generate a Benevolent Fund for our former players that need it.

•   How would the recent proposed investment in Danish side Lyngby Boldklub impact Aston Villa and what is the current situation?

Discussions are ongoing and at a commercially sensitive time.  If it works it would be a feeder club and also where we can give our young talent greater experience.  Lyngby is recognised as having an excellent Academy system.

•   What are the plans for the next pre-season and how are we going to avoid another disaster like last summer. Plus when can fans expect an announcement (back to Steve Gough’s points before the last pre-season, fans need time to arrange time off, travel, accommodation etc).

Talks are underway with the football management team as to what they want from a football perspective.  It depends a lot on what league we are in.  Football needs will come first, always.

•   Our former shop on New Street still has old posters and bits in the store. Could these not be removed as it looks like the shop has gone bust and doesn’t reflect well on the club. Would it not be possible to replace the old posters with a sign advertising the Villa Village Store?

In short, we have been in constant discussions to re-assign the lease and have been working to secure the lease contracting in December and then January.  We have subsequently held off branding the shop as the cost for a well-executed window design is currently £3k and so we have not progressed with this due to the impending change. We’ll have the team clean up the façade of the shop asap.

•   If/when promoted, some fans have expressed concern how we then cope in the PL. What plans are in place to, as Xia suggested, ‘hit the ground running’?

We are doing a lot of work on potential solutions for both leagues and recruitment etc. We will not give our hand away to potential opponents.

•   Although we have noted the comments by Keith in his recent interviews, is there an official update we can have to communicate to our various members on the FFP situation, especially if we don’t gain promotion?

We have no issue with FFP this year. Next year it will be a challenge.  The whole FFP situation is under review at the EFL on Thursday and we need to see if there will be any change in the rules.

•   Media channels.  We get a lot of questions about the poor official site and have brought it up before at FCG meetings, especially navigation.  Are there any planned improvements?  There have also been technical problems with AVTV, are these being corrected?  A fair few comments we get are on the quality of the commentary as well.  They appear too busy talking about tweets to set the scene and talk about the match.  Maybe a wider consultation (or a FCG specifically on these media issues) would help?  With Dan and Ian Taylor doing well with pre-match, maybe they could slot in for match commentary?

A)   Yes. We have been looking at the navigation and are aware of the issues.  Unfortunately, this is not something our existing developers will be able to pick up and will be a task for our new developers to remedy over the off season.  To confirm, we have terminated the contract with our existing provider due to poor performance in supporting our internal team ambitions.  The new provider should provide progress in this and many other areas across our fan channels.

B)   There have been a few issues with the navigation to the Live Match Centre and this is something we have raised with our existing developers to fix.  Unfortunately, if one of our partners go down or have trouble with their network it can affect the stream and there is very little we can do about it.  Rest assured we have put processes in place to flag up any risks and respond as quickly as possible.

C)   The AVTV commentator is a professional freelance commentator who also works across other outlets (unlike the previous person in this role).  We’ve engaged him on a season-long contract but we are increasingly looking at getting a co-commentator in with him to help provide relief in the less action-packed games.  Also, we very much see the value in having support and an alternative perspective to events on the pitch.  We are planning to engage other contributors through the end of season and keep an active mix of second comms in use next year.  As with the studio show, people who are relevant to our audience & willing to participate for not a great deal of money, are quite hard to find.

D)   As above, we’re looking to introduce a roster of talent to the studio show who may also be willing & able to do co-commentary, the likes of Hitzlsperger, Daley, Vassell, Hendrie, celebrity fans etc are all in contact.  This could be an opportunity to interlink into the former players club.

•   Are there any plans to give the ladies football team more prominence on the official site?

There are plans afoot to better integrate the Ladies team into our roster of matchday and non-matchday coverage on social channels etc with their own themes of content and presentation.  However, the WSL website is something the league provide and this is a strong destination for the Ladies content which we aim to better support through next season with dedicated media resource in our Foundation team.

As the Ladies move to Boldmere we will also be trying to encourage fanzone activities etc on a matchday to try to boost our general coverage of the games.

•   Are there any updates on HS2/Bodymoor issues?

We have now acquired additional land at BMH that would not be affected by HS2 and we are still fighting with the HS2 executive on correct remuneration.  We will update as things get resolved but it is a complex situation with many moving parts.

•   Other items for discussion:

A request from AVDSA, the Aston Villa Disabled Supporters Association to be represented on the FCG was agreed by all.

Hopefully something good comes from that EPL meeting mentioned for today regarding FFP, Wyness has been hinting for a while now, that there are moves behind the scenes to try and relax the rules, could be crucial for us, if we find ourselves still in this division next season.
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Post by De Kuip Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:44 pm

Thank McGrath they are binning the current website developers in the off season. One of the worst sports club websites I know. They ought to take a leaf out of my local rugby club - Exeter Chiefs - who have a great website.
Mind you what a crap situation that you can't buy gift vouchers for the AVFC club shop - literally every other club I know you can. When I asked the shop about it the helpful soul on the other end asked why didn't I simply buy something to the value of what gift voucher I would have wanted. Hardly the point is it?!
I passed this and a few other items of feedback to luke organ a few months back and he said he'd pass on my feedback.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:37 am

Recon Wenyuan Cable...'SAYS IT PLANS TO INVEST IN INDONESIA’S PT.WIJAYA KARYA REALTY FOR 15 PERCENT STAKE IN WIKA REALTY, TO BUY 70 PERCENT STAKE IN PT.WIJAYA KARYA INDUSTRI ENERGI VIA SHARE ISSUE'


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Post by AstonThriller Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:08 pm

deadbuzzardalive wrote:Recon Wenyuan Cable...'SAYS IT PLANS TO INVEST IN INDONESIA’S PT.WIJAYA KARYA REALTY FOR 15 PERCENT STAKE IN WIKA REALTY, TO BUY 70 PERCENT STAKE IN PT.WIJAYA KARYA INDUSTRI ENERGI VIA SHARE ISSUE'


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So what does this mean Deadbuzz? Recon flexing their financial muscle? Very Happy
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:15 pm

I'm not entirely sure, but it looks like they're planning on buying shares in a couple of companies owned by 'WIKA', who are I think are a fairly big construction company controlled by the Indonesian government. Teamax have also agreed a smart city deal with them worth $450M. So looks like Xia getting involved with WIKA in various avenues.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Wed May 30, 2018 6:47 pm

Those accusing Xia/Recon of having no money after Xia's statement, are wide off the mark, they might not have as much as the mega rich owners, but it's not unusual for them to spend hundreds of millions of dollars investing in companies, and that's just through the subsidiaries I know about, they have many other companies as well, the problem is I imagine FFP (can't just ignore it as some suggest we should as that can now result in points deduction or demotion) and the new laws in China which make it difficult to move money out of that country.

He's also being accused of just spending all the parachute money, but that barely covered fifty percent of the wage bill, he's put plenty of money into the club, and if stays he probably will continue to do so in the infrastructure. Where he failed miserably is having the right people to make the football decisions, having a CEO who's been out of the game for eight years, and Sporting Director who' had no experience in the role whatsoever wasn't really the best of ideas.
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Post by bruka Wed May 30, 2018 6:59 pm

deadbuzzardalive wrote:Those accusing Xia/Recon of having no money after Xia's statement, are wide off the mark, they might not have as much as the mega rich owners, but it's not unusual for them to spend hundreds of millions of dollars investing in companies, and that's just through the subsidiaries I know about, they have many other companies as well, the problem is I imagine FFP (can't just ignore it as some suggest we should as that can now result in points deduction or demotion) and the new laws in China which make it difficult to move money out of that country.

He's also being accused of just spending all the parachute money, but that barely covered fifty percent of the wage bill, he's put plenty of money into the club, and if stays he probably will continue to do so in the infrastructure. Where he failed miserably is having the right people to make the football decisions, having a CEO who's been out of the game for eight years, and Sporting Director who' had no experience in the role whatsoever wasn't really the best of ideas.

That last sentence is bang on the money and is in a nutshell why we are where we are. It's vital that we remedy that as soon as possible, everything else will fall into place after.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:47 pm

Not the most reliable of sources, but the Daily Star are saying that Xia is ready to listen to offers for the club, and wants around £100m.
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Post by VTID85 Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:54 pm

deadbuzzardalive wrote:Not the most reliable of sources, but the Daily Star are saying that Xia is ready to listen to offers for the club, and wants around £100m.

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Post by UnclePanda Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:22 pm

VTID85 wrote:
deadbuzzardalive wrote:Not the most reliable of sources, but the Daily Star are saying that Xia is ready to listen to offers for the club, and wants around £100m.

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Post by deadbuzzardalive Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:23 pm

I completely forgot about him, at one time it seemed like everyday we was linked to a new US billionaire... We'll have people getting excited about Larry Ellison again.
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Post by VTID85 Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:48 am

I couldn't resist, sorry.

We need someone on airport watch, someone scouring the Forbes rich-list for indications of a playboy looking for a new playtoy and EVERYONE from now on needs to preface every post with:

"I'm not ITK, but..."

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One, two, three.... hey Micky you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind..........
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:27 pm

Thought it might be a bit too early to start a takeover thread, but the sun are claiming that someone called Matt Southall wants to buy us...

A GROUP of British businessmen are set to launch a takeover attempt of Aston Villa.

SunSport understands current Villa owner Dr Tony Xia is ready to sell after failing to win Premier League promotion.

And a consortium, fronted by fitness entrepreneur and former football agent Matt Southall, are planning to bid for the Championship club.

Chinese billionaire Xia bought Villa from Randy Lerner for around £60million following their relegation from the top flight in 2016.

But he has failed to get them back up in two seasons, losing in the play-off final to Fulham last week.

And with Steve Bruce’s side now needing to slash their sky-high wage bill to avoid breaking Financial Fair Play rules, Xia wants to cut his losses.

That has alerted the UK-based consortium, who have held talks about buying two other Championship clubs in the past six months and have also got ex-Blackburn director of football and operations, Paul Senior, on board.

The group believe Xia will sell if he gets back the price he paid for Villa two years ago.

Speaking in the aftermath of Villa's play-off final defeat, Xia admitted he had to slash the club's budget because of FFP.

He said in a statement: "We are all aware that we will face severe FFP challenges next season.

"I am an Aston Villa fan. But I am also a businessman.

"Under the current circumstances, I think the club needs to rethink not only the past two years but also the past ten years.

"This is the ultimate reality that cannot be changed, but I can assure you that everyone behind the scenes is working tirelessly towards achieving our ultimate goal.

"We have been heavily investing for the past two seasons.

"However, the loss on Saturday means that we need to change a lot of things."
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Post by The Utterer Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:47 pm

If they are multi billionaires connected to a football agent with zillions of top talent in his portfolio i'm all for it.

If it is some half cocked bunch of millionaires with no clout forget it
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Post by AstonThriller Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:47 am

Well now it appears that the writing is on the wall, isn't it? And I suspect that the British group being leaked is only the beginning of the process. Several groups circled before Lerner eventually took over, and the same was true before Xia came forward as well. Right now these stories are merely letting potential suitors know that the club is for sale, and now I suspect many more groups will throw their hat into the ring In the coming weeks.

All we can hope for now is that some extremely rich folks with drive and ambition will step up and take on the club. I'm hoping the group who wanted Newcastle will join the race tbh, and I don't think Xia would just sell us to any old idiots so hopefully this will work out for the better In the end.
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Post by deadbuzzardalive Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:02 am

It's all a bit worrying, I hope we're not sold to a bunch of chancers who just think they can make a quick buck out of us, otherwise we'll just end up like Leeds who get through owners as quickly as most clubs' get through managers.

Then again if the right people come forward it could be the start of a new beginning... I kind of miss the saga of the last takeover, with all the links to Red Bull, Larry Ellison, Micky Arison, The Texas Rangers guys, and so on,... people phoning up restaurants and tracking planes, and yachts, was all actually more entertaining than the actual team has been recently.

Surprised that Xia hasn't denied it yet, it would probably mean we're stuck with Bruce for a while as well.

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Post by smetro Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:56 am

AstonThriller wrote:Well now it appears that the writing is on the wall, isn't it? And I suspect that the British group being leaked is only the beginning of the process. Several groups circled before Lerner eventually took over, and the same was true before Xia came forward as well. Right now these stories are merely letting potential suitors know that the club is for sale, and now I suspect many more groups will throw their hat into the ring In the coming weeks.

All we can hope for now is that some extremely rich folks with drive and ambition will step up and take on the club. I'm hoping the group who wanted Newcastle will join the race tbh, and I don't think Xia would just sell us to any old idiots so hopefully this will work out for the better In the end.

Yep pretty much as I see it. I doubt much will come of this consortium - we might not even actively be for sale, but should a chance arrive for Dr Tony to recoup most of his outlay I reckon he would jump at the chance. Also as recon regularly buy and sell companies this might not be as drawn out as the lerner sale.

Beyond his enthusiasm I don't believe Xia has much to offer.
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