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Post by kimbo Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:59 am

I am really hoping that we hear some takeover news soon, as the Lambert debates running into a 3rd season is already a bit soul destroying Laughing
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:00 pm

Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

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Post by kimbo Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:02 pm

TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.


I concur. Hughes, Ranieri etc
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:06 pm

TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:08 pm

jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers
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Post by phil__ Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:09 pm

Lambert will last a few months if the new owners do come in then as soon as we hit bad form he will be gone. A lot of other managers could have got more out of the players weve had the last 2 years. When he came in he said we would always have a go but i cant remember the last time i watched a game at villa park when we were really battering a team against the holte. We showed what we can do in the first half against hull but second half we sat back again. Its his disliking to wingers which drives me mad everyone at villa park can see we need width but him
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:11 pm

Eastie wrote:
jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers

lol! lol!
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:13 pm

Eastie wrote:
jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers

Where did I mention Randy? Name me a takeover in recent times where the manager has been fired straight away? Fulham no Cardiff no Liverpool no Man city no. I'd be shocked if they announce a deal and say, oh by the way, we're bringing in x y or z nowt to do with Lerner. Often seen as courtesy to the existing manager. I'm not talking ages, 5 to 8 games.
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Post by VillaBill Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:15 pm

Lambert IMO is anti football, its reactive football, too scared to lose rather than brave enough to go for a win !
He should of gone after failing to beat Bradford City over two games TBH ! 🤦
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:17 pm

TheEgo wrote:
Eastie wrote:
jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers

Where did I mention Randy? Name me a takeover in recent times where the manager has been fired straight away? Fulham no Cardiff no Liverpool no Man city no. I'd be shocked if they announce a deal and say, oh by the way, we're bringing in x y or z nowt to do with Lerner. Often seen as courtesy to the existing manager. I'm not talking ages, 5 to 8 games.

You didn't mention randy ego.
Jimbop did under your post but he didn't press quote properly - the reply was to jimbop.
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 pm

VillaBill wrote:Lambert IMO is anti football, its reactive football, too scared to lose rather than brave enough to go for a win !
He should of gone after failing to beat Bradford City over two games TBH ! 🤦

Yep I agree, that was the game/so where I first lost faith. He's turned into a Eck clone, all the things he said he wouldn't do he does. Not lost is his first priority. This villa job is too big for many. It comes with huge expectation and lambert has been like a rabbit in headlights at times.
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:20 pm

Just a quick interruption to the chat. If you're on an iPad and you see that the screen has changed, we're aware of it and in the process of getting it sorted, if not as you were Very Happy
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:21 pm

TheEgo wrote:Just a quick interruption to the chat. If you're on an iPad and you see that the screen has changed, we're aware of it and in the process of getting it sorted, if not as you were Very Happy

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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:27 pm

Eastie wrote:
TheEgo wrote:
Eastie wrote:
jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers

Where did I mention Randy? Name me a takeover in recent times where the manager has been fired straight away? Fulham no Cardiff no Liverpool no Man city no. I'd be shocked if they announce a deal and say, oh by the way, we're bringing in x y or z nowt to do with Lerner. Often seen as courtesy to the existing manager. I'm not talking ages, 5 to 8 games.

You didn't mention randy ego.
Jimbop did under your post but he didn't press quote properly - the reply was to jimbop.

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Post by Keyser Soze Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:30 pm

The best start to a season since Gregory, and that from a team that just about stayed up last season with the addition of 7 mill investment. Sod the cups our target is to stay in the league until sold( cup success can come after the takeover ). If Benteke comes back firing on all cylinders then top six isn't impossible. Lambert lost his back room staff yet carried on, a new manager would want his own back room team and the promise of at least 40 mill a season on transfers and then complain when it isn't raised a further 20 mill. Lambert is a chairmans dream hence expect a new 5 year contract soon regardless of who's signing the cheques.
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:54 pm

TheEgo wrote:
Eastie wrote:
TheEgo wrote:
Eastie wrote:
jimbop wrote:
TheEgo wrote:Personally if/when a takeover happens, I think (like with many takeovers) that Lambert will get a couple of months, if only out of courtesy. It's rare for incoming owners to shove the manager out the door immediately. That doesn't mean they won't have someone lined up and results, attendances, atmosphere will all play a part in how quickly changes are made.

there may be a chance that randy has an agreement with new owners that they give lambert the season,just a thought


Not a chance in hell - randy wouldn't risk losing a £200m deal by insisting a new owner keep lambert - they'd tell him to get stuffed - it's their call.
As lambert said - no loyalty in football !
Let me hold the door for you paul as you depart cheers

Where did I mention Randy? Name me a takeover in recent times where the manager has been fired straight away? Fulham no Cardiff no Liverpool no Man city no. I'd be shocked if they announce a deal and say, oh by the way, we're bringing in x y or z nowt to do with Lerner. Often seen as courtesy to the existing manager. I'm not talking ages, 5 to 8 games.

You didn't mention randy ego.
Jimbop did under your post but he didn't press quote properly - the reply was to jimbop.

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Post by VillaBill Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:06 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:The best start to a season since Gregory, and that from a team that just about stayed up last season with the addition of 7 mill investment. Sod the cups our target is to stay in the league until sold( cup success can come after the takeover ). If Benteke comes back firing on all cylinders then top six isn't impossible. Lambert lost his back room staff yet carried on, a new manager would want his own back room team and the promise of at least 40 mill a season on transfers and then complain when it isn't raised a further 20 mill. Lambert is a chairmans dream hence expect a new 5 year contract soon regardless of who's signing the cheques.

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Post by Coseley Villa Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:16 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:The best start to a season since Gregory, and that from a team that just about stayed up last season with the addition of 7 mill investment. Sod the cups our target is to stay in the league until sold( cup success can come after the takeover ). If Benteke comes back firing on all cylinders then top six isn't impossible. Lambert lost his back room staff yet carried on, a new manager would want his own back room team and the promise of at least 40 mill a season on transfers and then complain when it isn't raised a further 20 mill. Lambert is a chairmans dream hence expect a new 5 year contract soon regardless of who's signing the cheques.

well you have started drinking early this weekend !!
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Post by Keyser Soze Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:17 pm

VillaBill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:The best start to a season since Gregory, and that from a team that just about stayed up last season with the addition of 7 mill investment. Sod the cups our target is to stay in the league until sold( cup success can come after the takeover ). If Benteke comes back firing on all cylinders then top six isn't impossible. Lambert lost his back room staff yet carried on, a new manager would want his own back room team and the promise of at least 40 mill a season on transfers and then complain when it isn't raised a further 20 mill. Lambert is a chairmans dream hence expect a new 5 year contract soon regardless of who's signing the cheques.

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I think Lerner sees Lambert as an old pair of shoes.
common sense says get rid of, you can afford new ones and every ones telling you they look tatty yet you somehow feel emotionally attached.
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:27 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:The best start to a season since Gregory, and that from a team that just about stayed up last season with the addition of 7 mill investment. Sod the cups our target is to stay in the league until sold( cup success can come after the takeover ). If Benteke comes back firing on all cylinders then top six isn't impossible. Lambert lost his back room staff yet carried on, a new manager would want his own back room team and the promise of at least 40 mill a season on transfers and then complain when it isn't raised a further 20 mill. Lambert is a chairmans dream hence expect a new 5 year contract soon regardless of who's signing the cheques.

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Post by Kakacroom Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Ideal time to buy villa lamberts contract is up at the end of the year so give him this season
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Post by Keyser Soze Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:16 pm

if its Arison, Ellison or the Russian from Arsenal then I can imagine a new manager in the ilk of Mancini or Klinnsman coming in with a blank cheque and target of title wins etc but what if it isn't? lets say the new guy is worth similar to Lerner in wealth then hows the new manager interview going to go? hello Mr Mancini, I want you to manage my football which I have just bought for 190 million and finished near the bottom last season and I am willing to give you 30 million to spend on new players, oh and mind the wage spend. I think he will say no thanks!
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Post by GadgetMan Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:21 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:if its Arison, Ellison or the Russian from Arsenal then I can imagine a new manager in the ilk of Mancini or Klinnsman coming in with a blank cheque and target of title wins etc but what if it isn't? lets say the new guy is worth similar to Lerner in wealth then hows the new manager interview going to go? hello Mr Mancini, I want you to manage my football which I have just bought for 190 million and finished near the bottom last season and I am willing to give you 30 million to spend on new players, oh and mind the wage spend. I think he will say no thanks!

Yep, until we know who buys us, we can't predict managers. I'd still say we could attract someone of better pedigree then lambert with a new owner and a savvy board and a decent budget
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Post by Keyser Soze Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:24 pm

TheEgo wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:if its Arison, Ellison or the Russian from Arsenal then I can imagine a new manager in the ilk of Mancini or Klinnsman coming in with a blank cheque and target of title wins etc but what if it isn't? lets say the new guy is worth similar to Lerner in wealth then hows the new manager interview going to go? hello Mr Mancini, I want you to manage my football which I have just bought for 190 million and finished near the bottom last season and I am willing to give you 30 million to spend on new players, oh and mind the wage spend. I think he will say no thanks!

Yep, until we know who buys us, we can't predict managers. I'd still say we could attract someone of better pedigree then lambert with a new owner and a savvy board and a decent budget
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Post by CTVillan Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:58 pm

For me, Moyes has demonstrated that he is a great manager for teams around the Europa qualification spot, but can't handle the CL level (yet). If the incoming owner has a top manager lined up then Lambert can can leave tout suite. If not, then I see no harm in giving him until January - I would expect Lerner to plead PL's case before the new owners as I believe he will be very loyal to Lambert as Lambert has been to him. Clearly, Lambert has benefited greatly from Lerner's situation and that is the only reason he still has the villa job. I think we are seeing Keane's influence in recent performances and there is no way I will give Lambert any credit for that.


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B62 Villa wrote:no one around me was sing Paul Lamberts name it was more of a mumble that went along with the tune of the chant.
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